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Patriarch Jacobus Maria DeJesus, D.D.
An Editorial Commentary



A Response to the Misguided Attempt to Defend the New Mass
With Extensive Commentaries Regarding:

1) Courageous Priest Note
2)  The Dangers of Attacking the Validity of the Novus Ordo

Preface


“Truth knows no distinction of persons.  Therefore, he who speaks [verbally; in writing] the Truth is invincible, dispute with whom he may.” (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., [b. 1225 A.D. in Rocca Secca, Naples, Italy - d. Wednesday, March 7, 1274 A.D., in Fossa Nuova, Italy], Doctor of the Church, Commentary on Job, Chapter 13, Lesson 2; emphasis added.)



“6. Now I beseech you by the Mercy of the Lord, that as I will in this letter according to your desire write to you of Divine things and of the witness of a pure conscience to our Faith, no one will think to judge me by the beginning of my letter before he has read the conclusion of my argument. For it is unfair before the complete argument has been grasped, to conceive a prejudice on account of initial statements, the reason of which is yet unknown, since it is not with imperfect statements before us that we must make a decision for the sake of investigation, but on the conclusion for the sake of knowledge.   I have some fear, not about you, as God is witness of my heart, but about some who in their own esteem are very cautious and prudent but do not understand the Blessed Apostle’s precept not to think of themselves more highly than they ought: for I am afraid that they are unwilling to know all those facts, the complete account of which I will offer at the end, and at the same time they avoid drawing the true conclusion from the aforesaid facts.  But whoever takes up these lines to read and examine them has only to be consistently patient with me and with himself and peruse the whole to its completion. Perchance all this assertion of my Faith will result in those who conceal their Heresy, being unable  to practice the deception they wish, and in True Catholics attaining the object which they desire.” (Bishop Saint Hilary of Poitiers [b. at Poitiers, France in  c. 315 A.D. - d. Poitiers, France on Saturday, January 13, 368 A.D.], a married Bishop of Poitiers [350  A.D. - Saturday, January 13, 368 A.D.], Father and Doctor of the Catholic Church, “Select Works on the Trinity and Psalms”; On the Councils, or the Faith of the Easterners, ¶ 6; emphasis added.)
 
“Not only does he betray the Truth who transgresses against the Truth by openly speaking falsehood and not the Truth, but he also betrays it who does not openly speak the Truth, which must be openly proclaimed, or does not boldly defend it when it must be boldly defended.”  (Patriarch Saint John Chrysostom [b. Antioch, c. 347 A.D. - d. at Commana in Pontus on Friday, September 14, 407 A.D.], Patriarch of Constantinople [Thursday, February 26, 398 A.D. - Thursday, June 24, 404 A.D.], exiled from his See the 2nd time on Thursday, June 24, 404 A.D., Father and Doctor of the Catholic Church, Cause 11, Question 3, Nolite.)


 


“Do not heed BY WHOM a thing is said,
BUT rather WHAT IS SAID.”

(Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P.,
Letter to Brother John; emphasis added.)

Knowledge
 
It is of the greatest importance that in order to gain assured knowledge of things, to rely on exact acquaintance with facts, rather than on the uncertain testimony of public rumor; and then what we have proved for certain we may proclaim without hesitation. (Saint Bernard of Clairvaux  [b. Castle Fontaines, near Dijon, France in 1090 A.D. - d. at Clairvaux, France on Friday, August 21, 1153 A.D.], Abbot of Clairvaux, Doctor of the Church, Doctor of the Church, Oracle of the 12th Century, Mellifluous [soothing sound] Doctor, Probable Author of the very popular Memorare Prayer; Letters)..



Whenever it becomes necessary to expose statements which disguise some suspected error or danger under the veil of ambiguity, one must denounce the perverse meaning under which the error opposed to Catholic Truth is camouflaged.” (Pope Pius VI, Giovanni Angelo Braschi [Wednesday, February 15, 1775 - Thursday, August 29, 1799], using his Infallible Ordinary Magisterium, Promulgated his Encyclical “Auctorem Fidei,” Thursday, August 28, 1794, ¶ 6; emphasis added).
 

It is primarily the Most Holy Sacrifice of the UNCHANGEABLE  CATHOLIC  TRADITIONAL
MASS that soothes the irritated anger of the Lord.

“The Lord sees all the evil that wants to triumph, He sees Satan make tents on the land and assembling his friends to complete the final effort to overthrow. Never was a time so terrible, but do not be afraid! I will walk on the line with you. I will walk this line from France to Rome with my flaming sword ... I come to destroy the wicked by the Lord's command. ‘War to Christ and death to the Church!’ That is what they sing, the wicked! They are just prolonging the existence of the afflicted. Without their prayers, the hour of God would not be suspended.  It is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass that soothes the irritated anger of the Lord.”  (“The Breton Stigmatist”, Saint Michael the Archangel, Monday, September 29, 1879; emphasis added.)
 






NO!  NO WAY!
IT IS NOT  CATHOLIC!

 
 

So tell me, “Catholic to the Core”, WHY do You:

1) Send your children to a “catholic school” that teaches them the Heresies of Modernism & the NEW Theology?

2) Go to a “catholic church” that uses a 16th Century PROTESTANTMemorial Supper Mealmass”?

3) Made up on a  PROTESTANT Supper TABLE?

4) By mostly “invalidlyordainedLAYMEN  who wrongly think they are real: priests; or, bishops; or, cardinals; or, even a pope?!!!

FACT: Your “core” is really “ANTI-Catholic”!!!!!!!


 
Did You Know?
The Tremendous Value of a VALID Mass
Offered by a VALID Priest or Prelate
Includes 17 Exceptional Blessings!

Every VALID Holy Sacrifice of the
Catholic Traditional Mass you devoutly attend:

1. Fulfills your Sacred SUNDAY duty and responsibility to your Infinite Creator, Almighty God, by uniting yourself with the Mass Celebrant who, as your Mediator with God, Offers to God an Infinite SACRIFICE of:

1) Adoration/Worship;
2) Thanksgiving;
3) Petition;
4) Propitiation/Reparation for your actual sins.
2. Renders the greatest gratitude and homage to the Sacred Humanity of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, God Incarnate.

3. At the hour of your death, will be your greatest consolation.

4. Will go with you to your Judgment to plead for pardon for you from the Just Judge.

5. Diminishes the temporal punishment due to your sins.

6. Supplies for many of your faults, negligences, and sins of omission.

7. Forgives your Venial Sins you are determined to avoid and for which you are truly sorry.  Forgives your unknown/forgotten sins which you never confessed.

8. Reduces Satan’s power over you.

9. Gives the Suffering Souls in Purgatory the greatest possible relief.

10. Is of more value/benefit to you than 1,000 Masses offered for you after your death.

11 You are preserved from many dangers/misfortunes which otherwise would have befallen you.

12.  Shortens your time in Purgatory by hundreds of earth years.

13. For each Mass, God will send one Holy Saint, and one Holy Angel, to comfort you at your death.

14. You kneel amid a multitude of Holy Angels from Heaven.

15.  Brings Blessings to you in regard to your temporal goods and concerns.

16.  Every Valid Holy Mass you devoutly attend which is Offered to Almighty God in honor of the Blessed Virgin Mary, e.g. Our Lady of Mount Carmel (July 16), Assumption (August 15), Immaculate Heart of Mary (August 22), Immaculate Conception (December 8), etc., Our Blessed Mother will shower you with her special love, Blessings, and protection in this life.  On your Day of Judgement, Our Lady will be permitted to plead for Mercy for you with her Divine Son, the Just Judge, with the same degree of fervor as the same number of Masses you devoutly attended in her honor.

17.  At every week-day Valid Holy Mass you devoutly attend (i.e. not at the Sunday Mass), which is Offered to Almighty God in honor of any particular Holy Angel or Holy Saint, thanking God for the favors bestowed on that Holy Angel or Holy Saint, you provide that Holy Angel or Holy Saint a new degree of honor, joy, and happiness in Heaven.  Because of this, you then receive the special love and protection of that Holy Angel or Holy Saint for yourself.



Automatically excommunicated heretic, apostate, innovator, and anti-Catholic infiltrator, Paul 6 actually admitted that he himself changed the Infallible & Unchangeable FORM  (Infallible Councils of Florence & Trent):
“For PASTORAL REASONS, however, and to facilitate concelebration, we have directed that the words of the Lord be identical in each form of the can [i.e. Eucharistic Prayers #1, #2, #3, and #4].  Thus, in each eucharistic prayer, we WISH that the words be as follows:  over the bread:  Accipite et Manducate ex Hoc Omnes:  Hoc Est Enim Corpus Meum, Quod Pro Vobis Tradetur; over the chalice:  Accipite et Bibite ex Eo Omnes:  Hic Est Enim Calix Sanguinis Mei Novi et Æterni Testamenti, Qui Pro Vobis et Pro Multis Effundetur in Remissionem Peccatorum.  Hoc Facite in Meam Commemorationem.  The words Mysterium Fidei, NOW TAKEN OUT OF THE CONTEXT OF THE WORDS OF CHRIST, are said by the priest as an introduction to the acclamation of the faithful.”  (Pope Paul VI, Missalis Romani, Thursday, April 3, 1969 A.D., ¶ 6; emphasis added.)


PAGAN NEW WORLD ORDER anti-MASS:


March 7, 1965
Automatically Excommunicated  Modernist Heretic and
Automatically Excommunicated  Apostate, pope paul 6 of the
anti-Catholic.Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church
First.Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church..non-Latin NEW mass
First anti-Catholic Satanic Novus Ordo Missae in the Vernacular
By a Clone of anti-Christ in the .Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church




 





 

 

 






“No lie is of the Truth.”  (1 John 2:21.)




“Truth cannot be Truth's contrary.”  (Saint Thomas Aquinas [b. 1225 A.D. in Rocca Secca, Naples, Italy - d. 1274 A.D. in Fossa Nuova, Italy], Summa Contra Gentiles, IV,8.)


 


 
 



 



 


 

 
Because The Sacraments of the New Law flow from the side of Christ, during His Holy Sacrifice, BUT IF there is no Holy Sacrifice of the unchangeable Catholic Mass, a.k.a. the unchangeable Traditional Ancient Roman Rite of the Catholic Mass, NOTHING flows from the side of Christ, and therefore the Sacraments, including Baptism, Penance, Holy Eucharist, Holy Orders, etc., are unable to function properly, incluing the giving of the Grace which  each of the Seven Sacraments signify.

Furthermore, since the NEW rite for the ordination of bishops has been in use since 1968, which was also made up by certain  .automatically   excommunicated..Apostates. and  .Modernist Heretics, as well as the  .automatically   excommunicated..Apostates. and  .NEW Theology Heretics,   who deliberately DESTROYED the Roman Catholic Traditional Rite for the Administration of the Sacrament of the Episcopacy, the .anti-Catholic..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.. has not had any new, .validly.  ordained   deacons, priests, and bishops since 1968, as We have proven  on another web page!

Therefore, the LAYMEN, who had been, and those LAYMEN today who are, ordained with the .invalid.1968 rite, are only what they had been before such an empty and.invalid. ceremony: LAYMEN!

For the record, even such ordinations by popes since 1968 are ALL .invalid.  - NO EXCEPTIONS!  This means that all of the LAYMEN, in the above photo taken in Saint Peter's Basilica in the Vatican, who are all prostrated before the fake and phony  pope JP-2,  an .automatically   excommunicated..Apostate. and  .Modernist Heretic, and .NEW Theology Heretic, expecting to be    .validly. Ordained Priests, left the Vatican after that empty ceremony of nothingness, still only LAYMEN due to a number of facts, one of which is the per se .invalid. 1968 rite the  fake and phony  pope JP-2 used.

Such LAYMEN, even though they incorrectly and wrongly think they are priests, and/or, bishops, actually have NO power of the Sacrament of Holy Orders to offer any valid   Masses and Administer any .valid.Sacraments in the  .anti-Catholic..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.
 


Therefore, today, more and more Roman-Collared LAYMEN are leaving the .anti-Catholic. .Satanic. .Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church..because such LAYMEN pseudo-priests now realize that none of them have any Spiritual and Sacramental Power to Offer Mass and to Administer the Sacraments of  Baptism, Penance, Holy Eucharist, and Extreme Unction, just as such LAYMEN pseudo-prelates (bishops of whatever rank of ecclesiastical jurisdiction), now realize that none of them have any Spiritual and Sacramental Power to Offer Mass and to Administer the Sacraments of  Baptism, Penance, Holy Eucharist, Confirmation, Holy Orders, and Extreme Unction!

Roman-Collared LAYMEN also have the very real and terrible fear they will go to Hell because their fake and phony “sacraments” never had any power to prevent the Souls of their trusting Parishioners from going to Hell because these fake and phony priests and bishops have never had any Spiritual and Sacramental power to Absolve anyone from any sins, including Mortal Sins!

It’s True! I’m leaving! They lied about my “ordination”The 1968 Roman Pontifical, with which I was “ordained”,  IS NOT .VALID!  So, I am only a LAYMANNOT a PriestI can no longer live this LIE of  .invalid.  “masses” and..invalid.  “sacraments”!  How many are burning in Hell because I have no power to “Offer Holy Mass”, and to “forgive Mortal Sins”!

Likewise, Roman-Collared LAYMEN, "ordained" with the 1968, or later editions of, the Roman Pontifical, who think and act as though they really are priests and bishops and popes. are NOT able to Offer a lawful and .valid. Catholic Traditional Mass as it was before 1944 in the Roman Catholic Church, nor can they Administer any Sacraments of the Roman Catholic Church for the same reason - because of the immutable law of .Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi. - which means ALL Roman-Collared LAYMEN, ordained with the 1968, or later editions of, the Roman Pontifical, ARE de facto members, NOT of the Roman Catholic Church, but of anti-Christ's .Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.

This also means that many Souls of faithful, sincere, trusting, but ignorant Catholics, have gone to Hell because of the  illegal and .invalid. pseudo-masses of these Roman-Collared LAYMEN,

(which deprived the Souls of faithful, sincere, trusting, but ignorant Catholics, of Sanctifying Grace  by which  to desire to obtain Absolution for their Mortal Sins in the Roman Catholic Sacrament of Penance)
and the illegal and invalid  pseudo-sacraments of these Roman-Collared LAYMEN, such as the per se .invalid. and  illegal  rite of reconciliation found in anti-Christ's   .Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.

Especially sad are the Souls in Hell whose Mortal Sins were unable to be absolved in the Roman Catholic Sacrament of Penance

(N.B.:  The anti-Catholic .Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.. rite of reconciliation  is NOT a Sacrament, but a blatant demonic lie and deception!),
before their deaths, because such Roman-Collared LAYMEN have no Power of any kind:  1) to Offer any Masses; and, 2) to Administer any Sacraments, including the Roman Catholic Sacraments of Baptism and Penance.

Thus the temporary triumph of the  .automatically   excommunicated..Apostates. and  .Modernist Heretics, as well as the  .automatically   excommunicated..Apostates. and  .NEW Theology Heretics,   who deliberately DESTROYED everything Catholic!

Contents

An Editorial Commentary

A Response to the Misguided Attempt to Defend the New Mass

Preface

Contents
 

Introduction
Item # 3

Issue # 1

affect and effect

They [Abuses] do not affect the validity of the Novus Ordo Mass.

Issue # 2
Abuses
The abuses occurring during Novus Ordo Masses are well-documented.
What Father makes clear is that the abuses are the fault of the priest.
Abuses do not change validity of the Mass.
It is perfectly acceptable to hate the abuses occurring.
I detest the abuses and irreverence which can (and do) occur in the Novus Ordo.
The Abuses Canard
Still need more proof?  Here are two very brief videos for your consideration

When Will the Above Be Coming to YOUR Local Parish, IF It Has Not Already Showed Up?

Roman Catholics DO NOT Applaud or Shake Hands At the Catholic Traditional Mass

Catholics - Did You Know?

The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the unbloody renewal of the bloody Sacrifice of Christ on the Cross, the Victim is one and the same.

The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is NOT a form of entertainment!

But the  Novus Ordo Missae, the new mass, in the  Satanic.Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church, IS ONLY A Form of Entertainment Because It Is NOT The VALID  Roman Catholic TRADITIONAL Holy SACRIFICE of the Mass!

Validity
They [Abuses] do not affect the validity of the Novus Ordo Mass.
Abuses do not change the validity of the Mass.
But that does not change whether the Mass is valid or not.
The Canard of the validity of the NOR - Novus Ordo Rite mass.
No Real Popes

NOR Priests/Bishops Only Laymen

WHO Is Ultimately Responsible For Such Subtle And Camouflaged Attacks Against the Real Mass?

So, why be surprised at this Satanic/Demonic APE Fake & Phony church?!

Pope's Crazy House

Some Sources Which Deal With the Heretical  validity  of the NOR issue

All Heretics, Apostates, and Schismatics Are Automatically Excommunicated

Codex Iuris Canonici - Code of Canon Law

Apostates

Heretics

Automatic Excommunication

Heresy

Anyone Who Pretends to Say Mass or to Hear Confessions, Incurs Automatic Excommunication

A Few Examples of Those  automatically  Excommunicated For Pretending to Say Mass

Item # 4
Let’s remember, Rome has spoken.
Pope Pius XII

Roma locuta; causa finita.

Automatic Excommunication

Pope Saint Pius X

Item # 5
Let us consider someone who attacks the Novus Ordo Mass so successfully that someone decides not to attend Mass.  Who’s culpable?
Item # 6
Personally, I love the Extraordinary Form and drive many miles to attend a faithful one
Part Four
The Dangers of Attacking the Validity of the Novus Ordo Article By Fr. Charles Nwora Okeke
Preface:  Important Historical, Doctrinal, and Theological Facts Concerning the Novus Ordo
Obviously, anyone can say anything, so here is some proof, with sources quoted and cited.

P-6: 2nd President of the NEW One World Order anti-Christ Religion With Self-Admitted Modernist Heretic Jean Guitton

The Novus Ordo Missae-new mass-IS NOT CATHOLIC - IT IS PROTESTANT!

Photos Taken on Friday, April 10, 1970 of the Protestants with Pope P-6 in the Vatican

Close-Up Photo Taken on Friday, April 10, 1970 of the Protestants with Pope P-6 in the Vatican

Photo of Paul 6 with some other members of the Synod Vatican 2 Consilium

Here is an admission by one of the Peritus (experts) at Synod Vatican 2

Synod Vatican 2 “Priest” Functions As the “President of the Assembly”

Synod Vatican 2, “Constitution on the Liturgy”, ¶ 33.

“President of the Assembly”

Synod Vatican 2 Official Definition of the Novus Ordo Missae - the NEW mass

Precise, Clear, and Logical Definitions of the Roman Catholic Church

Synod Vatican 2 church Deceptive Ambiguity

Consilium ad exequdam Constitutionem de Sacra Liturgia

Letter to Pope Paul VI, Thursday, September 25, 1969

Communism, Ostpolitik and Liberation Theology

Our Communist Pope

Introduction to Novus Ordo Issue

Comments by Catholics

Objective Reasons Why Roman Catholics Criticize the Novus Ordo Missae

1.  A “presumptive fallacy”

2.  The “gratuitous expression fallacy”

3. The “ipse dixit fallacy”

4.  The “fait accompli fallacy”

WHY has the NOR Innovated by Changing Kneeling to Standing at Communion?

The Above 3 Photographs were taken on Friday, April 10, 1970 A.D. in the Vatican

These SIX PROTESTANTS represent the following Protestant organizations

Protestant Archbishop Thomas Cranmer's Black Rubric

Standing is Now REQUIRED!

5. Argumentum Ad Ignorantiam, Argument to Ignorance

6.  The  petitio principii, or begging the question

A Huge Waste of Time

Paul 6 actually admitted that he himself changed the  Unchangeable Infallible Dogmatic Form

Solemn Papal Oath of Office

Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen's prophecy

Deliberate Affected Ignorance

62 Reasons Why, In Good Conscience, Catholics CAN NOT Attend the Novus Ordo Missae

Part Five:  CATHOLICS
Catholics:  STOP walking in the dark in your church
Protestant Memorial Supper Meal TABLE

The form of a table
 

Part Six:  Important Quotes, Historical Data, Etc.
A Few Important Quotes

Freemasons Pre-Select the Novus Ordo Pope!

Christ Himself has testified saying that the New Mass contains words which are odious in My sight.

Abomination of Desolation

The Demonic Novus Ordo

Pope Paul 6 Referred to the New Mass as the Novus Ordo

History Lesson on Two Heretics

9th Century:  John Scotus Eriugena

11th Century:  Berengar of Tours, a.k.a. Berengarius of Tours

The Importance of Tradition

Nihil innovetur nisi quod traditum est.

Bottom Line:  “Even if Catholics faithful to Tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the ones who are the true Church of Jesus Christ.”

The capacity of innovators in the art of deception

The Novus Ordo Rite is Invalid, Illegal, and anti-Catholic

A Catholic Priest Compared to The President of the Assembly

Part Seven:  Catholic Discussion Forums
The Primary Duty of Charity

“Notre Charge Apostolique”, Our Apostolic Mandate

The one and only basis for any discussion should be Catholic doctrine.

The First Part of the Solution

“But how can hearts be united in perfect Charity where minds do not agree in Faith?”

Public discussion forums merely encourage a person to state one's personal OPINION.

Protestant Rationalism

The theologian who expounds dogmas of faith must be severe in the choice of his proofs.

The Spirit of Our Fathers in the Faith

Censor, Censor Deputatus, Nihil Obstat, Imprimatur

Catholic Encyclopedia

Fr. Herbert Henry Charles Thurston, S.J., and Father George Tyrrell

Fr. Herbert Henry Charles Thurston, S.J. wrote more than 150 articles for the Catholic Encyclopedia.

a close friend of Father George Tyrrell, a fellow Jesuit priest

sanctioned by the Catholic Church for his Modernist theological opinions.

[5.]

Father Augustin Poulain, S.J.

Analogous Facts in the Natural Order must Be Produced.
Father Schouppe, S.J.

Saint Paul the Apostle

Bishop Saint Irenæus

It is surely necessary to avoid them (Heretics)
Father Saint Vincent of Lerins

Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P.

Fourth Œcumenical Council, the First Council of Chalcedon

Seventh Œcumenical Council, the Second Council of Nicæa

The Council of Trent

Doctor of Sacred Theology (Sacrae Theologiae Doctor - S.T.D.)

Dual Meanings

Encyclical “Auctorem Fidei”

“Whenever it becomes necessary to expose statements which disguise some suspected error or danger under the veil of ambiguity,..one must denounce the perverse meaning under which the error opposed to Catholic Truth is camouflaged.”
Encyclical “Depuis Le Jour”, On the Education of the Clergy

Laymen Who Wrongly Think They Are Priests and Bishops

Six Modern Opponents

Excommunications Latae Sententiae

The first among the Excommunications latae sententiae

Pope Pius VI's Warning Against  Innocuous Words

Giuseppe Cardinal Siri:  Opinions Replace Truth;  Liberal and Conservative

Gnosis
Confusion

An Index of Catholicism’s Decline

Index of Leading Catholic Indicators: The Church Since Vatican II
Prophecy of Jesus Christ on the New Mass

Catholic Public Discussion Forums Unable to Cope With Cunning Heretics

The Second Part of the Solution

Catholic Public Discussion Forums Can NOT Have the Imprimatur

Catholic Public Discussion Forums Need to Change to Only Catholic Traditional Dogmas, etc.

Part Eight:  Some Catholic Traditional Quotations

Part Nine:  Some Links Regarding the So-Called “New Mass”


Part Ten:  Definition of Terms

absolute
anathema, maranatha
canard
fallacy
faux pas
rationalism
reductio ad absurdum
relative
relativism
straw-man
The Blessing

Introduction

Dear Readers:

A Visitor to this web site sent Us the following article which has appeared on a web site identified as courageous  priest, as well as on an unknown number of other web sites.  The Visitor respectfully requested that We comment on the said article.

Below is the text, prefaced with a statement, apparently by a person who identifies himself as.. Courageous Priest.

We understand this text has been found on a number of web sites, some of which also include the so-called preface by the said.. Courageous Priest. Our Commentary is on both the said preface and the article.

Thank You for taking the time from your busy schedule to read what follows, as well as Our Commentary on certain parts of the preface and article.

God Bless You!

Patriarch Jacobus Maria DeJesus, D.D.

Part Two
Statement by  courageouspriest
..
Courageous Priest Note.  Fr. Charles Nwora Okeke is a “say the black and do the red” kind of priest.  This article is not about which form of the rite is better... The abuses occurring during Novus Ordo Masses are well-documented... What Father makes clear is that the abuses are the fault of the priest... They do not affect the validity of the Novus Ordo Mass... The two issues must be separated.  Abuses do not change the validity of the Mass.  It perfectly acceptable to hate the abuses occurring.  It is even fine to have a strong distaste for the Novus Ordo.  Let’s remember, Rome has spoken.  Let us consider someone who attacks the Novus Ordo Mass so successfully that someone decides not to attend Mass.  Who’s culpable?  In all things charity... Personally, I love the Extraordinary Form and drive many miles to attend a faithful one... I detest the abuses and irreverence which can (and do) occur in the Novus Ordo, but that does not change whether the Mass is valid or not. Charitable discussion is encouraged.
Article:  The Dangers of Attacking the Validity of the Novus Ordo
By Fr. Charles Nwora Okeke

Unwarranted criticism of the ‘Novus Ordo’: “Instead of incurring sin to ourselves through such unwarranted and ignorant criticism of a valid liturgical Rite, we can quietly begin to attend the Mass in any of the other Rites that are in communion with Rome…” unless, of course, we think that the other Rites too are defective. Let us focus on living our faith.

Someone recently posted: “The Novus Ordo is feminized. It represents divergent spiritual expression and theology; it avoids homilies on hard teaching, and teaches the primacy of conscience over a well defined set of rules for our conduct. The Novus Ordo represents the subjective and shifting sand”. It is wrong to define a liturgical Rite on the basis of defects encountered among individual priests and members of a congregation. A Rite represents a church tradition about how the sacraments are to be celebrated. There are about 20 liturgical Rites present in the Church today. Of these, the ordinary form of the Latin Rite, despicably referred to as the Novus Ordo by some people, has been the target of unremitting negative attacks. The way the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is offered in the ‘Novus Ordo” is stipulated in the Roman Missal. What is to be said by the priest is printed in black and what he is to do is printed in red. If the rubric were followed, as stipulated, the ‘Novus Ordo’ mass would be reverential as it is meant to be.

When a priest offers the Mass in a distracted manner, then that is his personal fault that has nothing to do with the Rite. If a priest were to add words and make gestures that are not in accord with the laid-down rubrics, then that is his fault. If a priest were to preach uninspiring homilies at Mass, then that is a personal problem that has nothing to do with the Rite. If the congregation were irreverent at Mass, then that is their fault for there is no place where the Church officially stipulates that the Mass be participated in irreverently. If anyone thinks otherwise let him or her present the document.

It is about time we stopped conflating individual defects with a perfect liturgical Rite into a liturgical entity despicably referred to as Novus Ordo. Instead of incurring sin to ourselves through such unwarranted and ignorant criticism of a valid liturgical Rite, we can quietly begin to attend the Mass in any of the other Rites that are in communion with Rome…unless, of course, we think that the other Rites too are defective. Let us focus on living our faith.

Fr. Charles Nwora Okeke

Part Three

Commentary on the Statements by..courageous   priest



Item # 1
Courageous Priest Note.

As stated above, the article in question has appeared on a web site identified as.. courageouspriest, as well as on an unknown number of other web sites.  Therefore, it seems logical to conclude that the informal introduction of the Reader to the author of the actual article entitled The Dangers of Attacking the Validity of the Novus Ordo, a person identified as Fr. Charles Nwora Okeke, was written by the self-identified person using the term courageouspriest.

This informal introduction, apparently by  courageouspriest, begins with:  Courageous Priest Note.

This term obviously does not provide the actual name of the self-identified person using the term courageouspriest. The Reader may wonder why it is that..courageouspriest..seems to want to keep his actual identity, by using his name, a secret?

We do not have a problem with this because We recall how several Roman Catholic Clergy have been assassinated.

However, We do have a problem with the above term.. Courageous Priest Note.

The problem is one of correct English grammar.  Taken literally, this term can be understood to mean different things.  This incorrect use of English grammar could possibly mean that the self-identified..courageouspriest..is writing, in general, to each Roman Catholic Priest to whom he imputes that each one of them is a..courageous priest.  Some Readers may be inclined to think this is too far-fetched to have any real basis in fact?

On the contrary, one of Our own Roman Catholic Priests received an E-Mail from a friend of his.  That E-Mail from his friend did NOT contain the fact that this article is found on an actual web site which uses the term..courageouspriest..as part of the actual URL!

Therefore, this Priest thought that his friend was calling him an actual..courageouspriest..and was trying to tell this Priest that he (the sender of the E-Mail) wanted this Priest to know that he (the friend of the Priest who sent the actual E-Mail) considered this article to be worthy of NOTE and     so should be read by the Priest to whom the E-Mail was sent.  Thus, the friend of the Priest, who sent the E-Mail, was calling him a..Courageous Priest..whom he wanted to..Note..the article in the E-Mail he sent to this Priest.

This is a true story!  It actually happened!

The obvious problem was that the friend who sent the E-Mail to this Priest failed to mention the important fact that the URL of the page on which the sender of the E-Mail found this article included the term..courageouspriest.

Hence, the sender of the E-Mail was NOT saying to his Priest-Friend that he (the Priest-Friend) was a..Courageous Priest..whom he wanted to..Note..that the article in the E-Mail he sent to this Priest was considered to be important for his Priest-Friend to read.

Other interpretations are also possible.

Bottom line:  what the term..Courageous Priest Note..obviously means is:  The person who wrote the informal introduction of the Reader to the author of the actual article entitled.. The Dangers of Attacking the Validity of the Novus Ordo, a person identified as..Fr. Charles Nwora Okeke, was someone at the website with the URL which includes the term..courageouspriest.

This is one way this term could have been written:

The..courageouspriest..website considers the following article entitled..The Dangers of Attacking the Validity of the Novus Ordo, by a..Fr. Charles Nwora Okeke, to be important because it concerns the subject of the..validity..of the new mass.  Please note the importance of this article.


Item # 2
This article is not about which form of the rite is better.

Although this article, per se, is not concerned with which rite is better, for Roman Catholics, there is no question as to - not which rite is better - but which is the one and only real and true rite which can be used!  Pope Saint Pius V settled this matter in perpetuity with his “Quo Primum Tempore”, Tuesday, July 14, 1570, including where Pope Saint Pius V writes in part:

We resolved accordingly to delegate this task to a select committee of scholars; and they, having at every stage of their work and with the utmost care collated the ancient codices in Our Vatican Library and reliable, original or amended, codices from elsewhere, and having also consulted the writing of ancient and approved authors who have bequeathed to us records relating to the said sacred rites, thus restored the Missal [of the Ancient Roman Rite] itself to the pristine form and rite of the Holy Fathers.”

“When this production had been subjected to close scrutiny and further amended We, after mature consideration, ordered that the final result be forthwith printed and published in Rome, so that all may enjoy the fruit of this labor; that priests may know what prayers to use, and what rites and ceremonies they are to observe henceforward in the celebration of Masses.”

Now therefore, in order that all everywhere may adopt and observe what has been delivered to them by the Holy Roman Church, Mother and Mistress of the other churches, it shall be unlawful henceforth and forever throughout the Christian world to sing or to read Masses according to any formula other than that of this Missal published by Us...”

“Accordingly, no one whosoever is permitted to infringe or rashly contravene this notice of Our permission, statute, ordinance, command, direction, grant, indult, declaration, will, decree and prohibition. Should any person venture to do so, let him understand that he will incur the wrath of Almighty God and of the blessed Apostles Peter and Paul.” (Pope Saint Pius V, Antonio-Michele Ghislieri [Friday, January 7, 1566 - Monday, May 1, 1572], Papal Bulla “Quo Primum Tempore”, Tuesday, July 14, 1570; emphasis added.)




Item # 3

Issue # 1

affect..and..effect

They [Abuses] do not affect the validity of the Novus Ordo Mass.

The term used by  courageouspriest,  namely:..They [Abuses] do not affect the validity of the Novus Ordo Mass.. is NOT correct.

Why not?

The word..affect..is NOT used in the precise terminology of Scholastic Philosophy which uses the word..effect..which  clearly anticipates, and/or otherwise denotes, the term to be found in the Traditional Scholastic usage which is..cause and effect.

Said another way, Scholastic Philosophy does NOT use the word  affect.  Thus it does not use the term:..cause and affect...This..faux pas..is self-evident as, for example:

effectproper effect, the immediate and particular kind of effect of a proper cause; the direct and specific effect of a specific causal ability.  See CAUSE, PROPER.”  (Father Bernard Wuellner, S.J., “Dictionary of Scholastic Philosophy”, E., p. 39-a.)
This..faux pas..also raises a question.  Based upon the obvious lack of knowledge concerning the Scholastic term..effect,..because of the fact that any First Year Seminarian should be very well acquainted with the frequently used Scholastic term..effect, one is left to wonder if   courageouspriest   is actually NOT a priest, but a layman?

Intrinsic evidence would have everyone take the position that  courageouspriest   is a layman because he writes in part:

Personally, I love the Extraordinary Form and drive many miles to attend a faithful one.
Therefore, IF..courageouspriest..is really a priest, and NOT a layman, then WHY does he write that he does in fact..drive many miles to attend a faithful one By this is meant the so-called new mass, a.k.a.,..the Novus Ordo mass, which has various versions, one of which is identified as the so-called..Extraordinary Form.

Said another way, IF..courageouspriest..is really a layman, and not really a priest, this would explain why he would..drive many miles to attend a faithful one, by which is meant the so-called new mass, a.k.a.,..the Novus Ordo Mass.

Intrinsic evidence also indicates that his is really a layman, and not a priest, because he does not know the correct term to use is..effect, and not..affect, something that any First Year Seminarian should know, as explained above.  IF he really is a layman, then..WHY does he identify himself as.. courageouspriest..and even use it in part of his own URL?..Why is this not blatant deception?.

SO, IF it is true that..courageouspriest..really is a layman, then MR...courageouspriest..really
has no business using the term:..courageouspriest...Why lie?!..And, since he apparently lies about being a priest, while apparently being only a layman, what else does he lie about in what he writes?   Therefore, the bottom line is that..courageouspriest..reveals he has no real credibility.  How sad!  A fake and phony?!  Not to mention at least somewhat ignorant as well, certainly regarding Thomistic Theology!  Thus, he has  impugned what he has written which, under such circumstances, would be considered sufficient justification to ignore what he writes, despite what seems to be his best of intentions.

Issue # 2

Abuses

The abuses occurring during Novus Ordo Masses are well-documented.

What Father makes clear is that the abuses are the fault of the priest.

Abuses do not change validity of the Mass.

It is perfectly acceptable to hate the abuses occurring.

I detest the abuses and irreverence which can (and do) occur in the Novus Ordo.


The Abuses Canard
..

In the front of the Roman Catholic Missale Romanum, before 1944, there is a section concerning defects.  At least some of the following defects could be interpreted as possible abuses, depending upon certain circumstances.  In any event, when one reads the actual texts of these defects, it is obvious that at least some of the more important and grave defects make the Mass.. invalid.

Here is an English Translation of the headings of the ten sections in the “De Defectibus”: “On Defects That May Occur in the Celebration of Mass”:

“I Introduction; II On Defective Matter; III On Defective Bread; IV On Defective Wine;
V On Defective Forms; VI On Defects of the Minister [Mass Celebrant];  VII On Defects of the Intention; VIII On Defects of the Dispositions of the Soul; IX On Defects of the Dispositions of the Body; X On Defects that Occur in the Ministry Itself.”  (Laws on Offering the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass based upon the Decrees of the Roman Catholic Council of Trent Set Forth in the Roman Missal Restored by Saint Pius V Tuesday, July 14, 1570 A.D.)

“MISSALE  ROMANUM Ex Decreto Sacrosancti Concilii Tridentini Restitutum S. Pii V Pontificis Maximi Editio Juxta Typicam Vaticanam Ritus servandus in celebratione Missae De Defectibus In Celebratione Missarum Occurrentibus.)

“Abuse: 1.  Use improperly or injuriously, misuse. 2. To hurt by treating wrongly; injure. 3. To speak in coarse or bad terms of, revile, malign. 4. Obs. To deceive.”  (abuse; Funk & Wagnalls, New International Dictionary of the English Language, Comprehensive Edition, Volume 1, A-PL, p. 7-c.)Synonyms for abuse include:  ill-usage; insult; maltreat; misuse; pervert; and revilement.

The NOR, Novus Ordo Rite mass, itself abuses the Ancient Roman Rite Missal  which is the Ancient Roman Missal restored  by Pope Saint Pius V with his “Quo Primum Tempore”, Tuesday, July 14, 1570, for which the NOR, i.e. the Novus Ordo Rite massitself,   automatically  incurred  “the wrath of Almighty God and of the blessed Apostles Peter and Paul.”



..
I'm obsessed with the Secrets of the Virgin [Our Lady of Fatima] to the little Lucia of Fatima.  This persistence of the Good Lady [the Blessed Virgin Mary] in the face of  the danger that threatens the Church is a Divine warning against the suicide of the alteration of the Faith in Her Liturgy, Her Theology, and Her Soul.” (Cardinal Pacelli, later Pope Pius XII, To his trusted friend, Count Enrico Pietro Galéazzi, in 1936.)

IMPORTANT:  The so-called “abuses” ploy was revealed for what it is in this brief excerpt from:  “Are the Mistranslations Abuses?

“It should be clear that in discussing the Novus Ordo Missae above, I have made reference to the Rite as it is used by the most conservative of post-Conciliar Catholics. Any reference to such phenomena as ‘clown masses,’ ‘marijuana masses,’ ‘guitar masses,’ etc., would immediately have raised the defensive cry that such are ‘abuses’. Therefore, they have not been included in our discussion, but the allowance of such ‘sideshows’ and participation in them by the hierarchy, plus the fact that they have never been clearly condemned, significantly undermines the ‘abuse’ argument.

“However, with regard to the Novus Ordo Missae, one must clearly deal with the issue of mistranslations from the original Latin. These are not and cannotby any stretch of the imaginationbe dismissed as ‘abuses’ enforced by those who surround the ‘poor beleaguered Popes,’ or as the illicit liturgical productions of dissident, experimenting priests.”

“Several points should be made in this regard:”

“1) Latin is for all practical purposes dead as a liturgical language. Those who point to the Latin original of the Novus Ordo Missae to prove the Catholicity of the vernacular Mass, or who use the Latin to exonerate the post-Conciliar Popes of promoting a Mass that contains heresy must recognize this fact.”

“2) Almost every defect in the New Order of the Mass we have discussed applies to the Latin version as much as to the English.”

“3) We have already given evidence that critical aspects of the translations have had direct papal approval, and we shall show below that they are advocated by official curial documents.”

“4) The mistranslations have been in use for decades, and complaints about them, as with the New Mass itself, have been repeatedly ignored by Paul VI and John Paul II. We are forced to conclude that the mistranslations are not ‘abuses,’ but an integral part of the ‘Liturgical Revolution’.”

“Well might one ask why those who felt that the vernacular would allow greater participation on the part of the ‘celebrating congregation’ did not use the already available translation of the old Mass. The answer, perhaps, was provided long ago in a work by the noted Jesuit historian Father Philip Hughes. In discussing the Anglican rites created by the 16th century Protestant Bishop Cranmer he stated:
“‘Such a proceeding would have advertised only the more loudly the conflict between the newly-imposed doctrine and the older belief. The new service was indeed in English, and in better English almost than any man before or since has ever devised. But it was also a careful re-modeling of the service and a re-writing of its prayers such that every sign that this rite was ever, or was ever meant to be, a sacrifice itself efficacious for the living and the dead, was entirely removed.’ [70]”
“It should also be emphasized that the errors in translating the New Mass from the Latin are paralleled in all the various vernacular versions used, with the exception of Polish. Further, the pattern they follow was first outlined in the document Inter Oecumenici (1964), and further delineated in subsequent Vatican pronouncements (such as DOL. Nos. 843 and 871). There can be no doubt that the mistranslations had the clear approval of the Pope. Archbishop Bugnini informs us in his memoirs that Paul VI reserved to himself the approval of the translations of the Canon, and above all, ..the Words of the Consecration.  As we noted above, this fact was also confirmed by Archbishop Weakland.”
It is very clear that the deliberate stratagem, which is not only permitted, but obviously even encouraged, in various places, by the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  primarily converts the ..Novus Ordo Missae, in such places, into an entertainment show.  This explains, in part, the entertainment features, which are NOT really sideshows, as some are wont to think, but rather the main event, the main show, in other words, that which makes everything else virtually irrelevant, such as a so-called  Novus Ordo mass, or Novus Ordo Missae, which is NOT the renewal of the Sacrifice of Christ on the Cross at Calvary.

Hence the use, and the apparent promotion, of the..Novus Ordo Missae, in such places, as an  entertainment  extravaganza, including, but not limited to, such things as clown masses, marijuana masses, guitar masses, fishing masses, fire masses, magician masses, buddhist masses, circus masses, etc., all of which are obviously encouraged in order to bring more money into the collection baskets.

The allowance, and encouragement, of such entertainment, not to mention the participation in them by certain members of the hierarchy, as well as the historical fact that the said  abuses  have never been canonically condemned, not to mention the obviously heretical irrelevant issue of some of the  mistranslations, all of which testify to the fact that none of the fake and phony arguments against such abuses, by the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-churchreally mean anything, which facts thereby totally destroy the so-called  abuse  subterfuge, which is not only an integral part of the so-called Liturgical Revolution, but which is but one effect of the so-called total   occult  control   of the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church!

For various reasons, because this  entertainment  extravaganza  is only slowly going into various local parishes of the so-called...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  not all of the laity who are de facto members of the so-called..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  have yet seen, or otherwise experienced, such  entertainment  as of yet.

Just because some of the laity of the so-called...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  have not yet seen, or personally experienced, entertainment shows in their local churches, some of them might doubt that such things even exist?  Therefore, here is a brief summary of what such laity have been missing:



Still need more proof?
Here are two very brief videos for your consideration:


Professional Circus Snake Act
(Click on Photo or this Link)
Entertaining the Audience by
Playing with the Snake
At the NEW “mass” Protestant
Memorial Supper Meal Table.

Father Circus
(Click on Photo or this Link)
Entertaining the Audience by Playing Music
As A Professional Snake Charmer?
At the NEW “mass” Protestant
Memorial Supper Meal Table.

When Will the Above Be Coming to YOUR Local Parish
IF It Has Not Already Showed Up?


Beginning Prayers
at the Foot of the Altar
Click on Picture for Video

Roman Catholics DO NOT
Applaud or Shake Hands
At the Catholic Traditional
Mass Because it is
the Unbloody Renewal
of Christ's Sacrifice on
the Cross at Calvary done
on an ALTAR of Sacrifice.


V-2 Priest Entertaining at NOR mass
Click on Picture for Video

BUT, Synod Vatican 2 “catholics”
DO Applaud and Shake Hands
Because all they have is an
Updated 16th Century Protestant
Memorial Supper Meal that is
Made up on a Supper TABLE.
Since it is NOT a Sacrifice,
It is NOT a REAL MASS.
This MEAL frequently has an
Entertainment Floor Show
with lots and lots of clapping!




Catholics - Did You Know?


The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the unbloody renewal of the bloody Sacrifice of Christ on the Cross, the Victim is one and the same.   (Pope Pius IV with Council of Trent, Session 22,  Monday, September 17, 1562, Chapter 2. De Fide - Unchangeable Dogma.)

Where in the Gospels does it say that, at the foot of the Cross, Saint John: dressed and acted like a clown, or a ventriloquist, or had an animal act, or danced, or acted like an idiot? Or that Our Blessed Mother, or Saint Mary Magdalen, or the Holy Women, or even Salome, danced around the foot of the Cross?  NOWHERE!


The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is NOT a form of entertainment!

But the..Novus Ordo Missae, the new mass, in the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,
IS ONLY A Form of Entertainment Because It Is NOT
The..VALID..Roman Catholic TRADITIONAL Holy  SACRIFICE  of the Mass!
 
Validity

They [Abuses] do not affect the validity of the Novus Ordo Mass.

Abuses do not change the validity of the Mass.

I detest the abuses and irreverence which can (and do) occur in
the Novus Ordo, but that does not change whether the Mass is valid or not.
The Canard of the..validity..of the NOR - Novus Ordo Rite mass.
The primary and real issue here, as well as with Fr. Okeke's article, is the..validity..issue concerning the NOR - Novus Ordo Rite mass.

Please note that there is no question concerning the..validity..issue of the so-called Old Mass in Latin, as some people call the Traditional Roman Catholic Ancient Roman Rite of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

For example:

“72. When the Novus Ordo was presented at the Vatican Press Office, it was asserted with great audacity that the reasons which prompted the Tridentine decrees are no longer. valid. Not only do they still apply, but there also exist, as we do not hesitate to affirm, very much more serious ones [i.e., reasons] today. It was precisely in order to ward off the dangers which in every century threaten the purity of the deposit of faith (‘depositum custodi, devitans profanas vocum novitates.’  <65>  that the Church has had to erect under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost the defenses of her dogmatic definitions and doctrinal pronouncements. These were immediately reflected in her worship, which became the most complete monument of her faithTo try to bring the Church’s worship back at all cost to the ancient practice by refashioning, artificially and with that ‘unhealthy archaeologism’ so roundly condemned by Pius XII, <66>   what in earlier times had the grace of original spontaneity means--as we see today only too clearly--to dismantle all the theological ramparts erected for the protection of the Rite and to take away all the beauty by which it was enriched over the centuries.   <67> ”  (A Critical Study of the New Order of Mass,  Section: VIII. The abandonment of defenses; emphasis added.)
As Readers might expect, the Canard of the..validity..of the NOR - Novus Ordo Rite mass has been exposed and refuted by various authors, including those who wrote the above document:  A Critical Study of the New Order of Mass.

However, because We do not want to copy entire books onto this web page, in the next section, We provide links to some of these books which are on Our other web pages.

Therefore, for this section, We now provide the Readers of this web page with a few brief samples from various areas of the work entitled:  HOLY MASS and the Novus Ordo Missae.  Is it valid?

Our English and North American friends' views were sound: a Mass celebrated in the new rite was not ambiguous, but invalid. Taught by the heretical form of Cranmer, which their ancestors had suffered, they felt from the time of the first reforms of Paul VI, that the new rite was leading toward Protestantism, that is, to the destruction of the Mass. As the Very Reverend Father Guerard des Lauriers has declared:
"In this matter, English Catholics have played the true role of the watch-dogs of Christianity." They "barked" the first against the so-called "New Mass", which in point of fact destroys the Mass. We will explain how.
The Apostolic Letter on Anglican Ordinations:
Doctrinal Value of this Document.
Defect of Form, That is, Defect of Sacramental Signification.
Defect of Intention.
Reminder of Certain Truths.

First truth. - We are right in the middle of a neo-Modernist crisis.

Second truth - There are two characteristics peculiar to Modernism:

a) Modernists do not assail particular doctrines, as did the enemies of the past, but direct their attacks "to the very root (of doctrine), that is, to the faith and its deepest fibres".[9] A modernist cannot possess faith, for he inevitably rejects everything supernatural.

b) Modernists are heretics, but they are also traitors: more hypocritical than Machiavelli, they possess the cunning of the infernal serpent under an appearance of being good apostles.[10]

Third truth.

Confronted with such redoubtable enemies, we must take up again the encyclical "Pascendi" of Pope St. Pius X, study it, and make it our manual in the fight for the faith.[11] Amongst other things, we will learn from it to beware of modernists' declarations, even those which sound most orthodox. As masters of ambiguity, they are capable of utilizing Catholic formulas, whilst giving them a sense which is not Catholic. What is more, in spite of the ambiguous character of certain expressions used, their reformed rites, taken as a whole, are not ambiguous, but heretical. Their works should, thus, not be judged according to their declarations, but in the light of their practical conduct. For, like marxism, with which it has great affinities, modernism is also a "praxis", an action, a subversive manoeuvre.

Fourth truth.

These heretics, or rather, as St. Pius X calls them, these "enemies of the faith" are benefitting, in practice, from the protection of Authority [an obvious euphemism by Father Barbara for the Pope], whilst the defenders of the traditional faith are the object of all kinds of petty persecution. Think, for example, of the difference in the treatment of Hans Kung, Schillebeckx, Koenig, Suenens, on the one hand, and that meted out to Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre on the other.[12]

Betraying one of their most imperative duties, those in authority in the Church now no longer issue condemnations, and the wolves which have entered the sheepfold are able, at their leisure, "to kill and destroy" the flock.  [13]

Reform of the Ordo Missae: extent and depth of the Subversion; the aim of the Reformers

The heterodox sects whose assistance was invited in the fashioning of the new liturgy were all, fundamentally, enemies of Holy Mass.

Corruption of the [Catholic] Mass to Bring it into Line with the Protestant Supper

A. - Defect of Intention

B - Defect of Form

We must now demonstrate how "the present forms of the eucharistic celebration in the Catholic Church", that is to say, "the new eucharistic prayers", or new canons, have been brought into line with the Protestant Supper by a whole collection of innovations which involve a substantial change.

First Innovation.

Second Innovation.

A change made in the second part of the consecration of the chalice.

Objection by the defenders of the New Rite.

Third Innovation.

Some revealing facts about the spirit of the New Rite.

Apart from the changes which I have already indicated, which all tend to bring our Catholic Mass into line with the Protestant Supper [44], here are some further facts, which anyone can verify for himself. Since these show clearly that one of the fruits produced by the new rite in those who have completely adopted it is a hatred, like that of Luther, for the traditional Mass, we can see revealed the irreconcilable differences which exist between the two liturgies: the one is, in practice, the negation of the other.

1. In places where the new rite has been adopted, the authorities permit and favor every kind of so-called liturgical experiment, even the most audacious and least Catholic.

2. In places where the new rite is installed, the traditional rite is absolutely proscribed and often actively combated.

3. This traditional rite, though "so pure from every error, that nothing is contained therein which does not in the highest degree savor of a certain holiness and piety, and raise up unto God the minds of those that offer it, for it is composed out of the very words of the Lord, the traditions of the Apostles, and the devout instructions also of holy pontiffs" [45], is, on the part of the protagonists of the "Novus Ordo Missae", the object of a hatred which reveals their criminal intention to destroy, in practice, the Catholic Mass.

End of the few brief samples from various sections of the work entitled:  HOLY MASS and the Novus Ordo Missae.  Is it valid?
No Real Popes

Members of  the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church, who stubbornly refuse to accept the Truth that the ..Novus Ordo Missae, a.k.a. the new mass, is per se   invalid, also have 2 other problems.

None of the six popes of  the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  shown in the above graphic, were/are Popes of the Roman Catholic Church for one of the two reasons in the above graphic.

In addition to this fact, all of them were also automatically excommunicated Modernists Heretics.  Some of them were also apostates such as 2nd John 23rd who was also a Freemason, and either a pro-Communist, or a Communist.  Proof for the infiltration of the Roman Catholic Church by Communists, Freemasons, and the anti-Catholicism of the the six popes of  the....Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  shown in the above graphic, is to be found on various web pages on this web site.

Examples include:

http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m-6660.html

http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m230.html

http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m129.html

http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m126.html

http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m110.html

http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m160.html

http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m120.html

http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m165.html

http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m15.html

http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m6661.html

http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m05.html

http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m135.html


NOR Priests/Bishops Only Laymen

This other problem is the fact that the...Novus Ordo Missae, a.k.a. ..the new mass,  of the so-called..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-churchis per se..invalid,  is because its so-called.. priests,..bishops, and even its..current pope, F-1, are (except for the much older Clergy)..only LAYMEN.   These.. laymen..have no Sacramental power to Offer Mass or to Administer the Sacraments!

Bottom Line:  It really makes no difference which liturgical rites the so-called clergy of the so-called..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  use, because, since all of them, except the most aged, are all..laymen, none of them have any Sacramental power to Offer Mass or to Administer the Sacraments using any liturgical rites!

So all of the so-called arguments used by the so-called...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  to
prove their NOR, Novus Ordo Rite mass, and sacraments, are all..valid, such arguments are fruitless and ..invalid!

This is because all of them, except the most aged, are all..laymen.  Therefore, all, except the most aged, have no Sacramental power to Offer Mass or to Administer the Sacraments using any liturgical rites!

How ironic!  Their so-called arguments used to prove their so-called masses and sacraments are . valid, in the final analysis, turn out to be..invalid, among other reasons, because their clergy are only..laymen!

Thus, a case of..reductio ad absurdum.

WHO Is Ultimately Responsible For Such Subtle
And Camouflaged Attacks Against the Real Mass?

“[Satan] will set up a counterchurch which will be the APE of the [Catholic] Church... It will have all the notes and characteristics of the [Catholic] Church, but in reverse and emptied of its Divine content.”   (Archbishop Fulton  J. Sheen. D.D., “Communism and the Conscience of the West”, Bobbs-Merril Company, Indianapolis, 1948.)

So, why be surprised at this Satanic/Demonic APE Fake & Phony church?!




Pope's Crazy House

Come to Goofy pope's  CRAZY FUN HOUSE!
It makes FOOLS out of "Catholics"
who wrongly think it is still,
without any doubts, the Roman Catholic Church!

Well, after all, it is still the SAME BUILDING!

But with:

Goofy “masses”
Goofy “priests”
Goofy “bishops”

Some Sources Which Deal With the Heretical..validity..of the NOR issue

HOLY MASS and the Novus Ordo Missae.  Is it valid?

Problems with the NEW Mass

Questioning The Validity of the Masses Using the  New, All English Canon

Questioning the Validity of McCarthy’s Case

The Sky Grows Darker Yet

Jesus Christ Warned Catholics About the NEW Mass

CATHOLICS:  STOP walking in the dark in your church

All Heretics, Apostates, and Schismatics Are Automatically Excommunicated


Codex Iuris Canonici - Code of Canon Law

Ҥ 1. Omnes a christiana fide apostatae et omnes et singuli haeretici aut schismatici: All Apostates from the Christian faith and all Heretics and Schismatics:

1o. Incurrunt ipso facto excommunicationem;  Incur excommunication ipso facto  [automatically by the fact itself].”   (Codex Iuris Canonici- Code of Canon Law, 2314; emphasis added.)

Anyone who spontaneously and with full knowledge helps in any way in the propagation of Heresy, or who co-operates in any way with Heretics contrary to the provision of Canon #1258 is suspected of Heresy.”  (Codex Iuris Canonici - Code of Canon Law, 2316; emphasis added.)




Anyone Who Pretends to Say Mass or to Hear Confessions, Incurs Automatic Excommunication

Persons not in Sacerdotal Orders, who pretend to say Mass or to hear Sacramental Confession, ipso facto   [automatically by the fact itself] incur the excommunication reserved in a special manner to the Apostolic See.  A layman performing such acts must, besides, be deprived of any pension and offices he may hold in the church, and be punished with other penalties, according to the gravity of the crime:  a cleric is to be deposed.” (Codex Iuris Canonici - Code of Canon Law, 2322; emphasis added.)

This.. automatic excommunication.. has been automatically incurred by ALL Priests and Bishops who have been ordained with the 1968 (or later edition(s), of the..Roman Pontifical  - this includes the pretend pope Francis 1.

A Few Examples of Those  automatically  Excommunicated For Pretending to Say Mass
Item # 4

Let’s remember, Rome has spoken.

Apparently,..courageous   priest, is not exactly certain  WHEN  Rome spoke, or exactly WHO, or WHAT, in Rome spoke?

Perhaps the following quote will help to refresh the memory of..courageous   priest?:

“48. For this reason, whenever there was question of defining a truth revealed by God, the Sovereign Pontiff and the Councils in their recourse to the ‘theological sources,’ as they are called, have frequently drawn many an argument from this sacred science of the liturgy. For an example in point, Our predecessor of immortal memory, Pius IX, so argued when he proclaimed the Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary. Similarly during the discussion of a doubtful or controversial truth, the Church and the Holy Fathers have not failed to look to the age-old and age-honored sacred rites for enlightenment. Hence the well-known and venerable maxim, Legem credendi lex statuat supplicandi -- let the rule for prayer determine the rule of belief. [45]  The sacred liturgy, consequently, does not decide or determine independently and of itself what is of Catholic faith. More properly, since the liturgy is also a profession of eternal truths, and subject, as such, to the supreme teaching authority of the Church [the Pope]. it can supply proofs and testimony, quite clearly, of no little value, towards the determination of a particular point of Christian doctrine. But if one desires to differentiate and describe the relationship between faith and the sacred liturgy in absolute and general terms, it is perfectly correct to say, Lex credendi legem statuat supplicandi -- let the rule of belief determine the rule of prayer. The same holds true for the other theological virtues also, In . . . fide, spe, caritate continuato desiderio semper oramus -- we pray always, with constant yearning in faith, hope and charity. [46].”  (Pope Pius XII, Encyclical,.. Mediator Dei, Thursday, November 20, 1947; emphasis added.)
We take the position that the sentence of the said..courageouspriest, to wit:  Let’s remember, Rome has spoken, .refers to the Catholic Traditional Mass.  After all, Pope Pius XII wrote about the Catholic Traditional Mass in his Encyclical..Mediator Dei, Thursday, November 20, 1947, as per the above quote.)

Furthermore, We would be remiss in Our Ecclesiastical Duties if We failed to teach the person, calling himself,..courageouspriest, that, historically, the correct term is:  Roma locuta; causa finita.  REAL Roman Catholic Priests know this term!

Therefore, We must ask..courageous    priest, why do you not know this fact?  Is the answer because it is merely but one example of many great lacunae in your education (especially if you were educated in the cesspool of the heresies and apostasy of the so-called ..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo - church?

Or, is the answer because you are a layman, and not a real Roman Catholic Priest?

After all, for REAL Roman Catholics, Pope Pius XII’s Encyclical,..Mediator Dei, definitely fits some of the official Papal teachings of the Roman Catholic Traditional Mass so that the rule,.. Roma locuta; causa finita,..logically and justly can be applied to it.

Said another way, regarding the heretical teachings of the six popes of the so-called...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  all six of them have been automatically excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church.

One reason for their..automatic excommunication..from the Roman Catholic Church is because of their use, teaching, etc., of the heresies of Modernism, as per Canon Law:

Ҥ 1. Omnes a christiana fide apostatae et omnes et singuli haeretici aut schismatici: All Apostates from the Christian faith and all Heretics and Schismatics:

1o. Incurrunt ipso facto excommunicationem;  Incur excommunication ipso facto  [automatically by the fact itself].”   (Codex Iuris Canonici- Code of Canon Law, 2314; emphasis added.)

Another reason they incurred the censure of..automatic excommunication..from the Roman Catholic Church is because of their use, teaching, etc., of the heresies of Modernism, as per the Decree.. Præstantia Scripturæ Sacræ, Monday, November 18, 1907, by Pope Saint Pius X:
“Moreover, in order to check the daily increasing audacity of many Modernists who are endeavoring by all kinds of sophistry and devices to detract from the force and efficacy not only of the Decree Lamentabili Sane Exitu (the so-called Syllabus), issued by Our order by the Holy Roman and Universal Inquisition on July 3 of the present year [1907], but also of Our Encyclical letter Pascendi Dominici Gregis given on September 8 of this same year [1907], We do by Our Apostolic Authority repeat and confirm both that Decree of the Supreme Sacred Congregation and those Encyclical Letters of ours [e.g. Pascendi Dominici Gregis], adding the penalty of excommunication against their contradictors, and this We Declare and Decree that should anybody, which may God forbid, be so rash as to defend any one of the propositions, opinions or teachings condemned in these documents he falls, ipso facto, under the censure contained under the chapter Docentes of the Constitution Apostolicae Sedis, which is the first among the Excommunications Latae Sententiae.”  (Op. Cit.).
IF the said..courageouspriest..is wont to imply that these..valid..laws of the Roman Catholic Church
somehow do not, or can not, apply to the six..automatically excommunicated..so-called popes of the
.Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  then this fact means that the said..courageous   priest..is, himself, a member of the said..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  in virtue of which, he himself is also an ..automatically excommunicated.. heretic and apostate.

Therefore, any/all attempts by the said..courageouspriest..to attempt to claim otherwise merely causes him to exacerbate his heretical/apostate position.  Hence, he has no credibility and can not be considered to be a member of the Roman Catholic Church!

Thus, in part because of the..Codex Iuris Canonici, Code of Canon Law, 2314, and also in part because of the Decree of Pope Saint Pius X, to wit:.. Præstantia Scripturæ Sacræ, Monday, November 18, 1907, the said six popes of the..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  incurred the censure of automatic excommunication from the Roman Catholic Church.

Among other things, this means that these heretical and apostate six popes of the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  are not members of the Roman Catholic Church and also that these heretical and apostate six popes of the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-churchhave no power, authority, or jurisdiction in the Roman Catholic Church, so that ALL members of the Roman Catholic Church MUST totally ignore any/all of the rules, laws, etc., not only on the Mass, but also on everything else in the Roman Catholic Church, which these heretical and apostate six popes of the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,   did, are doing, and will do in the future, because each one of these six popes have incurred the Excommunications..Latae Sententiae.

Roma locuta; causa finita!

Item # 5

Let us consider someone who attacks the Novus Ordo Mass
so successfully that someone decides not to attend Mass.  Who’s culpable?

The answer is obvious.  Because the so-called Novus Ordo Mass is NOT a valid Mass of the Roman Catholic Church, anyone who attends it, commits a Mortal Sin.  Those who do not attend it, do not commit this sin as a result!

Item # 6

Personally, I love the Extraordinary Form and drive many miles to attend a faithful one..

So the person who wrote this tells the Readers of it that he drives many miles to attend a faithful one, so he can commit a Mortal Sin.  Likewise, IF he is actually a priest, then why does he need to go anywhere to attend a faithful one?

Part Four

The Dangers of Attacking the Validity of the Novus Ordo Article
By Fr. Charles Nwora Okeke
Preface:
 Important Historical, Doctrinal, and Theological Facts Concerning the Novus Ordo
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Based upon both the title of this article, and the attached name of the author of this article, it seems self-evident that the author of this article is not only a member of the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  because, to the best of Our knowledge, it is the only. church. which officially uses only the Novus Ordo Missae, a.k.a. the new mass, a.k.a. the NOR-Novus Ordo Rite of mass, which is the subject of this article in regard to the so-called..Dangers of Attacking the Validity of the Novus Ordo, but also that he himself is a  priest  of this same said church?

Please note that the official function of each..priest..of the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo - church..has been officially and unequivocally defined as:

the priest who presides over the assembly”. (Synod Vatican 2:  “Constitution on the Liturgy”, ¶ 33.)
However, this is not the official title of “the priest who presides over the assembly”.  Based upon this official and unequivocal definition of the function,  this means that the actual title imputed to  the priest who presides over the assembly”, would be:  The President of the Assembly”.  The term-the “President of the Assembly”- has been used by various writers over at least the last few decades.

Why is this?

Because the above definition of the function of the..priest..of the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church...is extremely cumbersome terminology.  In other words, it is much easier to use the much more precise title  “President of the Assembly”, than the very clumsy title of the function: the priest who presides over the assembly”.

We doubt that any priest of the said church would seriously identify himself by his.function.in juxtapostion to his unofficial, but nontheless respectful, definite, and exact title as the..President of the Assembly..

Furthermore, the title, “President of the Assembly”, is, to the best of Our knowledge, a title not shared by the clergy of other churches, and therefore the church of which he is a member is very quickly identified.

Because We desire to correctly, and to very respectfully, identify the author of the above said article, in that which follows, and because the thought and the text, itself, would flow much more quickly and easily, by using the respectful title, “President of the Assembly”, it is more logical and practical to use this preferred nomenclature rather than anything else.

However, insofar as any type of membership, per se, in the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church, is concerned,  We personally feel sorry for, and pray for the Grace of Conversion, for each and every sincere member of this said church.

This includes the Laity, Religious, and Clergy, especially the Clergy, primarily those Clergy who wrongly think the so-called new mass, the Novus Ordo Missae, a.k.a. the NOR, Novus Ordo Rite of mass, is really a Mass of the Roman Catholic Church.


Obviously, anyone can say anything,
so here is some proof, with sources quoted and cited.


P-6
2nd President of the NEW One World Order anti-Christ Religion
With Self-Admitted Modernist Heretic Jean Guitton

"The intention of Pope Paul VI with regard to what is commonly called the Mass, was to reform the Catholic Liturgy in such a way that it should almost coincide with the Protestant liturgy [which is only a memorial supper meal, not a sacrifice]. There was with Pope Paul VI an ecumenical intention to remove, or, at least to correct, or, at least to relax, what was too Catholic in the traditional sense in the Mass and, I repeat, to get the Catholic Mass closer to the Calvinist mass." (Jean Guitton [b. at Saint-Étienne, Loire, in East-Central France on Sunday, August 18, 1901 - d. at Paris, France on Sunday, March 21, 1999], Apropos, Number 17, December 19, 1993, (17), p. 8ff. Also, Christian Order, October,1994.  N.B.: Jean Guitton was a confidant and an intimate friend of Pope Paul 6 who had 116 of his books and had made marginal study notes in 17 of these books. Quotation and citations are in Christopher A. Ferrara and Thomas E. Woods, Jr., "The Great Facade", The Remnant Publishing Company, 2002, p. 317).

Jean Guitton, a close friend of Paul 6, repeated the same thing in a mid-1990 radio interview:

"The intention of Paul VI with regard to what is commonly called the Mass, was to reform the Catholic liturgy in such a way that it should almost coincide with the Protestant liturgy -- but what is curious is that Paul VI did that to get as close as possible to the Protestant Lord's supper.... there was with Paul VI an ecumenical intention to remove, or at least to correct, or at least to relax, what was too Catholic, in the traditional sense, in the Mass - and, I repeat, to get the Catholic Mass closer to the Calvinist mass." (Jean Guitton, December 19, Radio Discourse, cited from Anthony Fraser, "Ecumenism - a Disaster for the Church", Apropos, No. 18, 1996 (Scotland), p. 122).

The Novus Ordo Missae-new mass-IS NOT CATHOLIC - IT IS PROTESTANT!

Therefore, on this basis it is self-evident that the Novus Ordo Missae, NOR - Novus Ordo Rite - Novus Ordo mass, IS NOT CATHOLIC - IT IS PROTESTANT, specifically the Protestant Calvinist mass!

Therefore, no one should defend in any way, and/or promote in any way, and/or use in any way, the Novus Ordo Missae, NOR - Novus Ordo Rite - Novus Ordo mass, BECAUSE IT IS NOT CATHOLIC - IT IS PROTESTANT!

The position of the 6 active Protestant members of the CONSILIUM is summed up by Brother Thurian:

“This Novus Ordo Missae [NEW Order of Mass] is so profoundly Ecumenical that it is theologically possible for Protestants to celebrate the Lord’s Supper in the SAME WORDS.   The new simplified Offertory does NOT anticipate a sacrificial act [as it does in the Ancient Roman Rite] and therefore does away with the difficulty which the “old” Offertory [of the Ancient Roman Rite] presented to Ecumenical efforts.”
N.B.:   Protestants - by definition - do NOT believe the UNCHANGEABLE Catholic DOCTRINES on the Holy Sacrifice of the Catholic Traditional Mass  (a.k.a. the Ancient Roman Rite of the Catholic Church).

IF Protestants really believed these UNCHANGEABLE Catholic DOCTRINES on the Holy Sacrifice of the Catholic Traditional Mass, it would NOT have been necessary for the Roman Catholic Council of Trent to formally teach these UNCHANGEABLE Catholic DOCTRINES on the Holy Sacrifice of the Catholic Traditional Mass in Session 22 on Monday, September 17, 1562, A.D.

Likewise, it would NOT have been necessary for the Roman Catholic Council of Trent to formally issue all of its Canons - complete with the penalty (censure) of..anathema..(automatic excommunication latae sententiae) - against those who do NOT believe what the Roman Catholic Church teaches concerning the Holy Sacrifice of the Catholic Traditional Mass as found in the Ancient Roman Rite of the Catholic Church.

How do other Protestants view the Novus Ordo Rite of mass?  Here is a representative example:

“...nothing in the renewed [i.e. the NOR - the NEW Order] mass need really trouble the Evangelical Protestant.”  (M.G. Siegvalt, Protestant Professor of Dogmatic Theology, Strasbourg.)

Photos Taken on Friday, April 10, 1970 of the Protestants with Pope P-6 in the Vatican


Photo Taken on Friday, April 10, 1970 of the 6 Protestants with Pope P-6 in the Vatican

The SIX PROTESTANTS who gave their input in making up the NEW mass are, from left to right:

1) Dr. George;
2) Canon Jasper;
3) Dr. Shephard;
4) Dr. Konneth;
5) Dr. Smith;
6) Brother Max Thurian (in white), who is standing next to Pope Paul 6 (in white).
These SIX PROTESTANTS represent the following Protestant organizations:
The World Council of Churches.
The Church of England.
The Lutheran Church.
The Protestant Community of Taize.
The updated, modernized, and synthesized anti-Catholic, per se invalid and illicit, 16th Century PROTESTANT Supper-Memorial-Meal
(which had its. heretical theological sources in the infamous heretical Memorial Meals.of the heretic.John Scotus Eriugena  .and of the heretic.Berengar of Tours, which heresies were condemned by the Roman Catholic Church in the 9th and 11th Centuries)
which is known as the.Novus Ordo Rite, which is now used in the United States and in many other countries as the NEW Mass, which Pope Paul 6, Giovanni Battista Montini [Friday, June 21, 1963 - Sunday, August 6, 1978], calls the.Novus Ordo Missae, was made up in part by the very active SIX PROTESTANT members of the Synod Vatican 2 Consilium.

The Pope was obviously very proud of their work.  So proud in fact that he had his photo taken with them on Friday, April 10, 1970 A.D., in the Vatican and is shown, in the photo below, shaking the hands of these. Protestants.as a gesture of congratulations!


Close-Up Photo Taken on Friday, April 10, 1970 of the Protestants with Pope P-6 in the Vatican

Scanned from Our copy of L'Osservatore Romano, English edition
http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m99.html


Photo of Paul 6 with some other members of the Synod Vatican 2 Consilium:

Scanned from Our copy of L'Osservatore Romano, English edition
http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m99.html

Therefore, it should be self-evident that since the so-called NEW mass of Paul 6 is, in reality, nothing more than a revised, modernized, and synthesized version of the anti-Catholic, per se invalid and illegal, 16th Century    Protestant   versions of the    Protestant   Memorial Supper Meals,  all of the above Doctrines and Canons on The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass by the Roman Catholic Council of Trent in Session 22 on Monday, September 17, 1562, A.D. likewise apply to this anti-Catholic, per se invalid - in ALL languages including Latin - and illicit/illegal, NEW mass of Paul 6 and to all of the many versions of the Novus Ordo Missae (NEW Order of mass), including all of those made up by Pope JP-2, the total number of which is unknown!

Therefore, is it any wonder that the Ancient Roman Rite of the Catholic Traditional Mass has been DESTROYED?!


Here is an admission by one of the Peritus (experts) at Synod Vatican 2:


Father Joseph Gelineau S.J.

The NEW mass:

is a different liturgy... This needs to be said without ambiguity:  The [Ancient] Roman Rite... no longer exists.  It has been DESTROYED!”
“Let those who like myself have known and sung a Latin-Gregorian High Mass remember it if they can.  Let them compare it with the Mass that we now have.  Not only the words, the melodies, and some of the gestures are different. To tell the Truth, it is a different liturgy of the Mass.  This needs to be said without ambiguity:  The [Ancient] Roman Rite as we knew it no longer exists [le rite romain tel que nous l'avons connu n'existe plus].  It has been DESTROYED  [il est detruit].  Some walls of the former edifice have fallen while others have changed their appearance, to the extent that it appears today either as a ruin or the partial substructure of a different building. We must not weep over the ruins or dream of an historical reconstruction.”
(Father Joseph Gelineau S.J. [b. at Champ-sur-Layon, Maine-et-Loire, West-Central France, on Sunday, October 31, 1920 - d. at Sallanches, a commune in the Haute-Savoie  department in the Rhône-Alps, South-Eastern France, on Friday, August 8, 2008].

He was a Synod Vatican 2 “peritus” - expert - and was one of the most influential members of Archbishop Annibale Bugnini's Consilium, which composed the NEW Mass, who helped to make up the NOR - Novus Ordo Rite, a.k.a. the NEW mass, a.k.a. the “Novus Ordo Missae”.  Gelineau was obviously very proud of what he did, and a professional apologist for the NOR.  This quotation is from his book: “Demain La Liturgk”, Paris, 1976, pp. 9-10; emphasis added).


Synod Vatican 2 “Priest” Functions As the “President of the Assembly”

More proof for the destruction of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass of the Roman Catholic Church, as well as the destruction of the proper role of the Roman Catholic Clergy, is found in the official definition of a Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.priest,  as already explained above, has been reduced to function as..the priest who presides over the assembly, a.k.a., the “President of the Assembly”.

“Moreover, the prayers addressed to God by the priest who presides over the assembly in the person of Christ are said in the name of the entire holy people and of all present.  And the visible signs used by the liturgy to signify invisible divine things have been chosen by Christ or the Church.  Thus not only when things are read `which were written for our instruction’ [Rom. 15:4], but also when the Church prays or sings or acts, the faith of those taking part is nourished and their minds are raised to God, so that they may offer Him their rational service and more abundantly receive His grace.” (Synod Vatican 2, “Constitution on the Liturgy”, ¶ 33; emphasis added. N.B.:  The term “the priest who presides over the assembly” makes him the President of the Assembly”.  In other words,  the “President of the Assembly” is the one “who presides over the assembly”.)
Sadly, it should be self-evident that the terms “priest”, as well as..the priest who presides over the assembly, .and the.President of the Assembly”,  do NOT mean a “sacrificing priest,” or a “priest” who is Ordained to “offer sacrifice” - specifically the Holy SACRIFICE of the Catholic Traditional Mass.

Unfortunately, every “priest” of the Synod Vatican 2 church, ordained with the new 1968 ritual, is only a Layman - a “LAY priest”, or a “LAYMAN priest”, or a “priest-LAYMAN”, .who presides over the assembly.

Synod Vatican 2 Official Definition of the Novus Ordo Missae - the NEW mass

The Lord’s Supper is the assembly or gathering together of the people of God, with a priest presiding, to celebrate the memorial of the lord.  [Footnote # 12]”  (“The General Instruction and the New Order of Mass,” ICEL-International Committee on English in the Liturgy-Sacred Congregation of Rites Decree, Easter Sunday, April 6, 1969, promulgated by Benno Walter Cardinal Gut, O.S.B. [b. at Reiden, a municipality in the district of Willisau, in the canton of Lucerne, Switzerland, on Thursday, April 1, 1897 A.D. - d. at Rome, Italy on Tuesday, December 8, 1970 A.D.], Prefect of the Sacred Congregation of Rites, and the President of the Consilium ad exequdam Constitutionem de Sacra Liturgia - Consilium for implementing the Synod Vatican 2 “Constitution on the Liturgy”,  Chapter II, ¶ 7; emphasis added).

“[Footnote # ] 12.  ‘Presbyterorum Ordinis’, no. 5; CSL, no. 33.”  “The General Instruction and the New Order of Mass,” ICEL-International Committee on English in the Liturgy-Sacred Congregation of Rites Decree, Easter Sunday, April 6, 1969, promulgated by Benno Walter Cardinal Gut, O.S.B. [b. at Reiden, a municipality in the district of Willisau, in the canton of Lucerne, Switzerland, on Thursday, April 1, 1897 A.D. - d. at Rome, Italy on Tuesday, December 8, 1970 A.D.], Prefect of the Sacred Congregation of Rites, and the President of the Consilium ad exequdam Constitutionem de Sacra Liturgia - Consilium for Implementing the Synod Vatican 2 “Constitution on the Liturgy”, Chapter II, Footnotes; Footnote # 12.)
Footnote # 12 refers one to:
1) “Presbyterorum Ordinis”, no. 5 which is the decree of Synod Vatican 2 on the Life and Ministry of Priests.  CSL is Synod Vatican 2’s “Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy”.
Since these two works are cited as the source of the definition found in “The General Instruction and the New Order of Mass,” as promulgated on Easter Sunday, April 6, 1969, by Benno Walter Cardinal Gut, O.S.B. [b. at Reiden, a municipality in the district of Willisau, in the canton of Lucerne, Switzerland, on Thursday, April 1, 1897 A.D. - d. at Rome, Italy on Tuesday, December 8, 1970 A.D.], Prefect of the Sacred Congregation of Rites, and the President of the Consilium ad exequdam Constitutionem de Sacra Liturgia - Consilium for implementing the Synod Vatican 2 “Constitution on the Liturgy”.  Because this Consilium made up the Novus Ordo Rite, it is necessary to quote these two references to avoid any possible confusion:
“...through the ministry of the Bishop, God consecrates priests so that they can share by a special title in the priesthood of Christ.  Thus, in performing sacred functions they can act as the ministers of Him who in the liturgy continually exercises His priestly office on our behalf by the action of His Spirit...And especially by the celebration of Mass, men offer sacramentally the sacrifice of Christ.” (Synod Vatican 2, “Presbyterorum Ordinis”, ¶ 5.)

“Although the sacred liturgy is above all things the worship of the divine Majesty, it likewise contains much instruction for the faithful.  For in the liturgy God speaks to His people and Christ is still proclaiming His gospel.  And the people reply to God both by song and prayer.”

“Moreover, the prayers addressed to God by the priest who presides over the assembly in the person of Christ are said in the name of the entire holy people and of all present.  And the visible signs used by the liturgy to signify invisible divine things have been chosen by Christ or the Church.  Thus not only when things are read `which were written for our instruction’ (Rom. 15:4), but also when the Church prays or sings or acts, the faith of those taking part is nourished and their minds are raised to God, so that they may offer Him their rational service and more abundantly receive His grace.”  (Synod Vatican 2, “Constitution on the Liturgy”,  ¶ 33; emphasis added).

Synod Vatican 2 church Confusion of Confusion

It should be clear to everyone that the definition which tells us that the Novus Ordo Rite is to celebrate the memorial of the Lord  (“The General Instruction and the New Order of Mass”, Chapter II, ¶ 7) is NOT the same thing as the sacrifice of Christ (as found in the Synod Vatican 2 “Presbyterorum Ordinis”, ¶ 5.)

The Lord’s Supper is the assembly or gathering together of the people of God...”  (“The General Instruction and the New Order of Mass”, Chapter II, ¶ 7) is NOT the same thing as “by the celebration of Mass, men offer sacramentally” (Synod Vatican 2, “Presbyterorum Ordinis”, ¶ 5.)

The Lord’s Supper is the assembly or gathering together of the people of God...” (“The General Instruction and the New Order of Mass,”, Chapter II, ¶ 7) is NOT the same as “...Although the sacred liturgy is above all things the worship of the divine Majesty...”    (Synod Vatican 2, “Constitution on the Liturgy”,  ¶ 33).

“....the assembly or gathering together of the people of God...” (“The General Instruction and the New Order of Mass,”, Chapter II, ¶ 7) is NOT the same as “...the prayers addressed to God by the priest who presides over the assembly...  [President of the Assembly]”   (Synod Vatican 2, “Constitution on the Liturgy”,  ¶ 33).

About the only thing on which both “The General Instruction and the New Order of Mass,”, Chapter II, ¶ 7, and the Synod Vatican 2 “Constitution on the Liturgy”, agree is the “with a priest presiding...” (“The General Instruction and the New Order of Mass,”, Chapter II, ¶ 7) which is the same as “...by the priest who presides over...  [President of the Assembly]”   (Synod Vatican 2, “Constitution on the Liturgy”,  ¶ 33).

Therefore, as you can see for yourself, there is to be found no CLEAR, OBJECTIVE, LOGICAL reason for saying that The Lord’s Supper is the assembly or gathering together of the people of God, with a priest presiding,  [President of the Assembly  to celebrate the memorial of the lord  [12]” (“The General Instruction and the New Order of Mass,”, Chapter II, ¶ 7)  based upon either the Synod Vatican 2 “Presbyterorum Ordinis”, ¶ 5, and/or the Synod Vatican 2 “Constitution on the Liturgy”,  ¶ 33.

The inconsistent variances found in the various points of these documents are irreconcilable because not only are these variances illogical, but what is of the gravest concern is that these variances are irreconcilable with the Deposit of Faith as it has been preserved by the Catholic Church!  In other words, these documents are worthless because they contradict each other because they are contrary to each other.

On the contrary:

Truth cannot be Truth’s contrary.” (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., [b. 1225 A.D. in Rocca Secca, Naples, Italy - d. Wednesday, March 7, 1274 A.D., in Fossa Nuova, Italy], Doctor of the Church, “Summa Contra Gentiles”, Book IV, Chapter 8).
In other words, Truth does not contradict itself.

Concerning the Consecration:

“...if the Consecration was not performed then [i.e. by Jesus Christ at the First Mass and later by His Apostles] by these [very same] words, neither would it be now.”  (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., “Summa Theologica”, Part III, Question 78, Article 1, Reply to Objection 1).
By the way, you will notice where the OFFICIAL ICEL English translation has mis-translated PRO MULTIS (for many) into “for all men”!  This latter term, now printed in the.. invalid.. Form for the Novus Ordo Rite, was condemned by the Roman Catholic Council of Trent in its Official Catechism, saying in part:
“With reason, therefore, were the words FOR ALL NOT used, as in this place the fruits of the Passion are alone spoken of, and to the elect only did His Passion bring the fruit of salvation.  And this is the purport of the Apostle when he says:  CHRIST WAS OFFERED ONCE TO EXHAUST THE SINS OF MANY [Heb. 9:28]; and also of the words of our Lord in John:  I PRAY FOR THEM; I PRAY NOT FOR THE WORLD, BUT FOR THEM WHOM THOU HAST GIVEN ME, BECAUSE THEY ARE THINE [John 17:9].”  (“The Catechism of the Council of Trent for Parish Priests”, Issued by Order of Pope Saint Pius V, Antonio-Michele Ghislieri [Friday, January 7, 1566 - Monday, May 1, 1572]. Translated by John Ambrose McHugh, O.P., S.T.M., Litt.D., and Charles Jerome Callan, O.P., S.T.M., Litt.D. Imprimatur: + Patrick Cardinal Joseph Hayes, D.D., [b. at New York, New York on Wednesday, November 20, 1867 - d. at New York, New York on Sunday, September 4, 1938;, Archbishop of New York, Monday, March 10, 1919  - Sunday, September 4, 1938]. The Eucharist,  pp. 227-228.)
EACH said document of the  heretical  and  apostate.. .Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  is ambiguous and equivocal which begets confusion of confusion.  For comparison, consider the PRECISE, CLEAR, LOGICAL definitions given by the Roman Catholic Church.  For example, consider the following brief quotes from the Roman Catholic Council of Trent.
Precise, Clear, and Logical Definitions
of the Roman Catholic Church

Canon 1.  If anyone denies that in the Sacrament of the Most Holy Eucharist are contained truly, really and substantially the Body and Blood together with the Soul and Divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ and consequently the whole Christ, but says that He is in it only as in a sign, or figure or force; let him be..anathema. (Roman Catholic Council of Trent, Session 13, Thursday, October 11, 1551; emphasis added).

Canon 2.  If anyone says that in the Sacred and Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist the substance of the bread and wine remains conjointly with the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ and denies that wonderful and singular change of the whole substance of the bread into the Body and the whole substance of the wine into the Blood, the appearances only of bread and wine remaining, which change the Catholic Church most aptly calls TRANSUBSTANTIATION; let him be..anathema.. (Roman Catholic Council of Trent, Session 13, Thursday, October 11, 1551; emphasis added).

Canon 1.  If anyone says that in the Mass a true and real sacrifice is not offered to God; or that to be offered is nothing else than that Christ is given to us to eat [as in the Protestant Supper Meal used in the Vatican 2 church today]; let him be..anathema..(Roman Catholic Council of Trent, Session 22, Monday, September 17, 1562, On the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 1; emphasis added).

Canon 3.  If anyone says that the Sacrifice of the Mass is one only of praise and thanksgiving; or that it is a mere commemoration of the sacrifice consummated on the cross but not a propitiatory one; or that it profits him only who receives, and ought not to be offered for the living and the dead, for sins, punishments, satisfactions, and other necessities; let him be..anathema..(Roman Catholic Council of Trent, Session 22, Monday, September 17, 1562, On the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 3; emphasis added).

Canon 6.  If anyone says that the Canon of the [Ancient Roman Rite of] Mass contains errors and is therefore to be changed; let him be..anathema..(Roman Catholic Council of Trent, Session 22, Monday, September 17, 1562, On the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 6; emphasis added).

Canon 9.  If anyone says that the [Ancient Roman] Rite of the Roman Church...is to be condemned...let him be..anathema.”  (Roman Catholic Council of Trent, Session 22, Monday, September 17, 1562, On the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 9; emphasis added).

HERE is clarity, logic, objectivity and consistency! There is even the penalty of automatic excommunication which is incurred by ANYONE-no matter who he or she is-who does NOT believe what is taught by these Canons which are promulgated under INFALLIBILITY!

. Synod Vatican 2 church..Deceptive Ambiguity

Compare this situation with the sad state of affairs of the Synod Vatican 2 church.  Not only is there seldom to be found any clarity, logic and objectivity, but there is-at best-only an apparent (not real) consistency with the Deposit of Faith.  Finally, there is not even ONE penalty imposed upon anyone who chooses to believe differently than what the Synod Vatican 2 church teaches!

Thus the Synod Vatican 2 church does not teach the SAME thing as does the Roman Catholic Church!  But in addition, the WAY in which the Roman Catholic Church teaches is totally different from the way in which the Synod Vatican 2 church teaches!

Finally, for those who still believe (perhaps because they are either in denial of the Truth or because of emotional insecurity) that the teachings of the Synod Vatican 2 church are the same as those of the Roman Catholic Church-despite the contrary which has just been proven-consider this additional point:  The “memorial of the Lord” as used in the teachings of the Synod Vatican 2 church is ambiguous and equivocal in the extreme!

What EXACTLY does the memorial of the Lord really mean?  Think about it!

For example, it could mean:

    1) the Stations of the Cross;
    2) 40 Hours Devotion;
    3) Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament;
    4) a Crucifix;
    5) the Gospels;
    6) a picture or an icon of Jesus Christ;
    7) etc.!

. Synod Vatican 2 church.. Deceptive Ambiguity

But “that which signifies many things is an ambiguous sign and consequently occasions deception; this is clearly seen in equivocal words.  But all deception should be removed from the Christian religion according to Col. 2:8:  `Beware, lest any man cheat you by philosophy and vain deceit.’”  (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., [b. 1225 A.D. in Rocca Secca, Naples, Italy - d. Wednesday, March 7, 1274 A.D., in Fossa Nuova, Italy], Doctor of the Church, “Summa Theologica”, Part III, Question 60, Article 3, Reply to Objection 1.)

So, by its very definition of the Novus Ordo Rite, the Synod Vatican 2 church, when the teachings of Saint Paul are applied to it, CHEATS its members by DECEPTION through deliberate ambiguity and equivocation!  Yet Christ says of Himself:  “I am the Truth.” (John 14:6).

But deception is NOT the TruthTherefore, the Vatican 2 church not only officially teaches lies, it also does not have Christ, the Truth, in a moral sense.  In addition, the Synod Vatican 2 church does not have Christ in a material sense either because by its deception via ambiguity and equivocity it DENIES the dogma of the Truth of the TRANSUBSTANTIATION as it is found in the Deposit of Faith in the Catholic Church!

Therefore, by its very definition, the Novus Ordo Rite of Mass is NOT the Mass instituted by Jesus Christ Who is the TruthHence, it is NOT a true, real, valid Mass!  It is, in other words, by its very definition, NOT a Mass at all!  It is only a “memorial” which could possibly be a bronze plaque which was placed in a cemetery in Rome, or someplace else, by the president of the Consilium which made up the Novus Ordo Rite, which stands beside many other such bronze plaques also set in cemeteries as a memorial for the dead, or perhaps for a certain group of dead such as those who died in a certain war or during an extermination holocaust, e.g. the 7 million Ukrainian men, women and children who were martyred by deliberate starvation for the Holy Catholic Faith by the atheist Communist Stalin during the 1930’s!


. Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church
Consilium ad exequdam Constitutionem de Sacra Liturgia

The  16th Century Protestant Memorial Supper Meals were updated, modernized, and synthesized by the Consilium ad exequdam Constitutionem de Sacra Liturgia - Consilium for implementing the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy of the Synod Vatican 2 church under the personal supervision of Pope Paul 6 which became Paul 6’s Novus Ordo Missae (NEW Order of mass), a.k.a. the NOR (Novus Ordo Rite - NEW Order Rite).

October, 1967

October, 1967, the Consilium ad exequdam Constitutionem de Sacra Liturgia - Consilium for implementing the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy - had completed a draft version for the revision and the ultimate total DESTRUCTION of the Missale Romanum - the liturgical book which contains all of the prayers and rubrics for the Mass Celebrant to use for Mass.

This version of the anti-Catholic Consilium  for the said revision, changes, and the ultimate total DESTRUCTION of the Holy Sacrifice of the Catholic Traditional Mass  was presented to the Synod of Bishops that happened to be meeting in Rome in October, 1967.

The Bishops of this Roman Synod attended the first public performance of this updated, modernized, synthesized  anti-Catholic, per se invalid and illegal, 16th Century Protestant Memorial Supper Meal, a.k.a. Protestant mass, in the Sistine Chapel.

When the Bishops of this Roman Synod were asked to vote on this updated, modernized, synthesized  anti-Catholic, per se invalid and illegal, 16th Century Protestant Memorial Supper Meal, a.k.a. Protestant mass,, the voting went as follows:

    1)  71 Bishops voted placet (approved).
    2)  43 Bishops voted non placet (not approved).
    3)  62 Bishops voted iuxta modum (not pleasing).
    4)  4 Bishops abstained.

In response to concerns of the Bishops, some minor changes were made to the text.


Letter to Pope Paul VI, Thursday, September 25, 1969

Attached to the Thursday, June 5, 1969 document - A Critical Study of the New Order of Mass, which was written by A Group of Roman Theologians - was a Cover Letter written by Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani and Antonio Cardinal Bacci to Pope Paul VI dated Thursday, September 25, 1969.

Rome, September 25, 1969

Most Holy Father,

Having carefully examined, and presented for the scrutiny of others [A Group of Roman Theologians], the Novus Ordo Missae prepared by the experts of the Consilium ad exequdam Constitutionem de Sacra Liturgia, and after lengthy prayer and reflection, We feel it to be Our bounden duty in the sight of God and towards Your Holiness, to put before you the following considerations:

    1. The accompanying Critical Study of the Novus Ordo Missae, the work of a group of theologians, liturgists and pastors of Souls, shows quite clearly, in spite of its brevity, that if we consider the innovations implied or taken for granted, which may of course be evaluated in different ways, the Novus Ordo represents, both as a whole and in its details, a striking departure from the Catholic theology of the Mass as it was formulated in Session XXII of the Council of Trent.   The “canons” of the Rite definitively fixed at that time provided an insurmountable barrier to any heresy directed against the integrity of the Mystery [i.e. the Catholic Mass].

    2. The pastoral reasons adduced to support such a grave break with Tradition, even if such reasons could be regarded as holding good in the face of Doctrinal considerations, do not seem to Us sufficient. The innovations in the Novus Ordo and the fact that all that is of perennial value finds only a minor place, if it subsists at all, could well turn into a certainty the suspicion, already prevalent, alas, in many circles, that  truths which have always been believed by the Christian people, can be changed or ignored without infidelity to that Sacred Deposit of Doctrine to which the Catholic Faith is bound for ever.   Recent reforms have amply demonstrated that fresh changes in the liturgy could lead to nothing but complete bewilderment on the part of the Faithful who are already showing signs of restiveness and of an indubitable lessening of faith. Amongst the best of the Clergy the practical result is an agonizing crisis of conscience of which innumerable instances come to our notice daily.

    3. We are certain that these considerations, which can only reach Your Holiness by the living voice of both shepherds and flock, cannot but find an echo in Your paternal heart, always so profoundly solicitous for the Spiritual needs of the children of the Church. It has always been the case that when a law meant for the good of subjects proves to be, on the contrary, harmful, those subjects have the right, nay the duty of asking with filial trust for the abrogation of that law.

Therefore we most earnestly beseech Your Holiness, at a time of such painful divisions and ever- increasing perils for the purity of the Faith and the unity of the Church, lamented by You our common Father, not to deprive us of the possibility of continuing to have recourse to the fruitful integrity of that Missale Romanum of St. Pius V, so highly praised by Your Holiness and so deeply loved and venerated by the whole Catholic World.

Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani
Antonio Cardinal Bacci
(Emphasis added.)

What was the response?

The official Newspaper of the Pope, L'OSSERVATORE ROMANO, Weekly Edition in English, which began in 1968, in October, 1969, claimed to know nothing of any such letter to Paul 6, or even of the..Critical Study of the New Order of Mass.

Behind the scenes, Paul 6 asked the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, a.k.a. the Holy Office - Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office - of which Cardinal Ottaviani himself had been the Secretary (Prefect), and who had been replaced by Franjo Cardinal Šeper, to examine the document the.. A Critical Study of the New Order of Mass.

The anti-Catholic Infiltrators in it responded on Wednesday, November 12, 1969 that the document contained many affirmations that were:

“superficial, exaggerated, inexact, emotional and false” (Christophe Geffroy and Philippe Maxence, Enquête sur la messe traditionnelle [with preface by Cardinal Alfons Maria Stickler], p. 21).
On the contrary, even the most casual reading of this document - throughout the entire text, filled with specific facts and Historical Truths,  along with a defense of Catholic Tradition - which you can prove to your own satisfaction when you read the actual text of  - A Critical Study of the New Order of Mass.

The text proves its adherence to the authentic Apostolic Tradition of the Roman Catholic Church with specific, objective, and true factual statements which are in harmony with, along with some direct quotes from, the Doctrines and Canons on The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass by the Roman Catholic Council of Trent, Session 22, Monday, September 17, 1562, A.D.

Communism, Ostpolitik and Liberation Theology

WHY did Pope Paul VI do nothing to restore the Roman Catholic Traditional Rite of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass mandated in perpetuity by the Roman Catholic Council of Trent?


Archbishop Helder Camara
'Opening his arms to Mgr. Helder Camara who approached him, Paul VI exclaimed:
"Good Morning, my Communist Bishop, How are you?"
The Archbishop retorted:
"And Good Morning to you, Our Communist Pope!"'
"The same reportage continued, Archbishop Camara noting that 'it is as if one played the piano with four hands, I start the theme and the Pope finishes it'."

"'How come one of your predecessors considered himself to be a King?' asked Mgr. Camara. Pope Paul VI took up the refrain: 'And that he was head of the Pontifical States.' Helder Camara: 'Why is it that Pius IX believed that it was the devil who relieved him of these states and why did he not see that Garibaldi had been sent by God?' Pope Paul VI answered: 'If one were to go through the archives of the Vatican one would see that Pius IX asked the Bishops to deliver him of all that, but that it was the French Bishops that forced it on him.'"

"Apart from the fact that this is a re-writing of history, and apart from the fact that Garibaldi was a Freemason who spent his entire life in fighting the Church, this remains a must unusual statement. Either Paul VI is serious in greeting Archbishop Camara as 'his Communist Bishop' (and the Archbishop is well known to be such), or he is acting like a buffoon in public. One may be permitted to wonder which alternative puts him in a better light. But if we have any doubts about his actual thoughts, let us again quote in him in a discussion of Communist China during the times of Mao Tse Tung:"

"'The Church recognizes and favors the just expression of the present historical phase of China and the transformation of ancient forms of aesthetic culture into inevitable new forms that rise out of the social and industrial structure of the modern world... We would like to enter into contact once again with China in order to show with how much interest and sympathy we look on their present and enthusiastic efforts for the ideals for a diligent, full and peaceful life.' (Footnote # 22: For a bishop to give his oath of loyalty to an atheistic government is to excommunicate himself. During the French Revolution the priests who gave their oath of fidelity to the new government were not persecuted. The Church however responded by excommunicating them.)" (Father Rama Coomaraswamy, Catholic Writings, Chapter XIII, part 2, Communism, Ostpolitik and Liberation Theology.  Rama Coomaraswamy, M.D., The Destruction of the Christian Tradition, pp. 364-365).

We hope the above data, some of it not known by most members of the..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  has provided some important background information which provides some REASONS why Catholics, who are faithful to the authentic Apostolic Tradition, do NOT attend such churches.

NOR Issue # 1
Novus Ordo Issue Part One

Unwarranted criticism of the ‘Novus Ordo’:
“Instead of incurring sin to ourselves through
such unwarranted and ignorant criticism of a valid liturgical Rite



Introduction to Novus Ordo Issue

The above..President of the Assembly..is obviously very frustrated and very emotionally upset, and not really thinking clearly, logically, and objectively, which may explain why he has lashed out at the just disgust which many Roman Catholics have had for many decades concerning the Novus Ordo Missae, which disgust is more than justified, as proven from the data under the above preface:  Preface:  Important Historical, Doctrinal, and Theological Facts Concerning the Novus Ordo.

From past experience, over many decades, psychologically, the opinions of some Catholics, who are very perspicacious, cover a wide range of knowledge, and too many negative personal experiences, in regard to other clergy of the past who were/are in some ways similar to the above..President of the Assembly”.

Comments by Catholics

Here are some of the comments some of these Catholics have made in the past, one or more of which can be considered to possibly apply to the above..President of the Assembly”:

1.  He is simply very frustrated at not understanding why the Novus Ordo is justly criticized.
2.  He is angry because he did not want to write this article.
3.  He is emotionally upset by thinking the criticism against the NOR is a criticize against him.
4.  He is a bully who demands everyone do what he tells them to do disrespecting free will.
5.  He is afraid he is going to lose his job.
6.  He is another anti-Catholic infiltrator trying to do what he can do to destroy the Church.
7.  He is ignorant.
8.  He is not at all interested in any/all of the real reasons why Catholics avoid the Novus Ordo.

Objective Reasons Why Roman Catholics Criticize the Novus Ordo Missae

One thing that is obvious is that the author of the above article has failed to recognize the opportunity the good God has given to him to do his own homework, to do his own personal research, to try to discover some of the OBJECTIVE REASONS of WHY so many Roman Catholics have, not only for criticizing the Novus Ordo Missae, but also for actually DETESTING it and refusing to go to it, as millions of Roman Catholics began to do when this heretical and apostate TRASH was first enforced, contrary to the Roman Catholic Traditional Teachings, Laws, Doctrinal and Dogmatic Canons and Decrees, most especially those of the Council of Trent!

ALL such clergy, and laity, of the ..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  do need to realize that rational people have objective and rational REASONS WHY they do, or do not do, certain things.  Visitors and Readers of this web site know at least some of them as the results of reading some of the other web pages on this web site.

Upon further analysis of the beginning of the article by the above..President of the Assembly”:

Unwarranted criticism of the ‘Novus Ordo’: “Instead of incurring sin to ourselves through such unwarranted and ignorant criticism of a valid liturgical Rite...
several issues become apparent.

The above..President of the Assembly”  assumes that there are not any real/objective/rational reasons for anyone to  criticize what he claims is a valid liturgical Rite.

In so doing, the above..President of the Assembly” falls into several fallacies, including the following.  A sophism or fallacy is an argument which, under the specious appearance of truth, leads to a false conclusion. The deception is caused either by some ambiguity in the expression, or by some confusion in the thoughts expressed. The chief synonyms for fallacy are sophism and paralogism.



1.  A “presumptive fallacy” is a fallacy which simply presumes, supposes, postulates, pretends, assumes, and presupposes that the statement is True.
The above..President of the Assembly” presupposes that his statement is true that criticism of the ‘Novus Ordo’ is unwarranted.

On the contrary:  ALL criticism of the Novus Ordo Missae is very warranted for the reasons to be found on this web page, and others, on this web site, including:

A Critical Study of the New Order of Mass.

HOLY MASS  and  the Novus Ordo Missae. Is it valid?

2.  The “gratuitous expression fallacy

2.  The “gratuitous expression fallacy” is a fallacy by which “anyone can say anything” and not offer any proof for what is said.

The above..President of the Assembly” presupposes that his statement that the ‘Novus Ordo’ is a valid liturgical Rite, but he provides no proof whatsoever.

On the contrary:

The Novus Ordo Missae is per se invalid.  Web pages that review this issue include:

Questioning the Validity Of The Masses Using The New, All-English Canon

The Much-feared “Validity Issue”

The issue feared most by the “progressive” or “new-breed” hierarchy and clergy is the question whether the “English Mass” is valid. Often they will tolerate our complaints about this and that, the forsaking of traditions, the abolition of the Latin liturgy, the deplorable catechisms, and so forth. On occasion they may even partially agree with us, or else simply nod their heads and go their way.

However, when the “validity issue” is raised to them their reaction is usually quite intense. There have been instances when bishops and priests, upon having the question of validity put to them, have become livid with rage. This is doubtless a defense mechanism on their part, for down deep they fear that we are right, they know that we have a sound case, and since they cannot explain away our arguments even to themselves, they wish to hear nothing of them.

3. The “ipse dixit fallacy”

3. The “ipse dixit fallacy” which means that “He, himself, said it.”  It is an arbitrary dogmatic statement which the speaker expects the listener to accept as being valid.

The above..President of the Assembly” requires that the Visitor/Reader/ and/or Listener, accept his arbitrary and unsubstantiated statement as being valid, namely, that the ‘Novus Ordo’ is a valid liturgical Rite.

On the contrary:

The Novus Ordo Missae is per se invalid.  Web pages that review this issue include those provided above, plus:

Questioning the Validity of McCarthy’s Case.
4.  The “fait accompli fallacy”

4.  The “fait accompli fallacydefends a proposition by bluntly asserting it as being a fait accompli - an “accomplished fact”; “a done deal”.  This distorts the argument by opting out of it entirely because the best way to distort any issue is to deny that issue ontologically, i.e. deny that the issue even exists - therefore, there is no issue because the issue is nonexistent.

The above..President of the Assembly” tries to claim that there is no question that the ‘Novus Ordo’ is a valid liturgical Rite.  This is no longer an issue because the .President of the Assembly” considers the issue to have been resolved sometime in the distant past.

On the contrary:

The Novus Ordo Missae is per se invalid because it is a PROTESTANT mass!  Remember, Protestants do NOT believe in Transubstantiation which explains why the first Protestant Archbishop of Canterbury discouraged kneeling at communion.


WHY has the NOR Innovated by
Changing Kneeling to Standing, and  now
Sitting at a Table in a cocktail lounge for communion!?

Brief Video of an Ancient Roman Rite
Catholic Traditional Solemn High Mass
The Celebrant of the Mass Administering
Holy Communion onto the tongue
to the Faithful who are kneeling
at the Holy Communion Rail

NOR Table communion
By a V-2 Waiter in vestments!
Nothing Holy.  Nothing Sacred.
No Adoration of Jesus Christ.
No Real mass and No Real communion!
Six PROTESTANTS Helped to make up the NEW mass!
For the .Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church!








The Above  3 Photographs were taken on
Friday, April 10, 1970 A.D. in the Vatican.
These SIX PROTESTANTS are, from left to right, in this bottom photo:
1) Dr. George;  2) Canon Jasper;  3) Dr. Shephard;  4) Dr. Konneth;  5) Dr. Smith; and,  6) Brother Max Thurian (in white), who is standing next to Pope Paul 6 (in white).




These SIX PROTESTANTS represent the following Protestant organizations:

The World Council of Churches;  The Church of England;  The Lutheran Church;  The Protestant Community of Taize.

The synthesis of the PROTESTANT Supper-Memorial-Meal, called the Novus Ordo Rite, or New Mass, which is now used in the United States and in many other countries as the "New Mass", was made up in part by these very active SIX PROTESTANT members of the Consilium. The Pope was obviously so proud of their work that he had two photos taken with them on Friday, April 10, 1970 A.D., in the Vatican!

The above two photos prove in part why the NEW mass is a synthesized, modernized, updated, 16th Century PROTESTANT Liturgical MEMORIAL SUPPER MEAL which contains only the mere shadow of the ancient CATHOLIC Rite of Mass because, by their own beliefs, Protestants do NOT believe in the CATHOLIC DOGMA of Transubstantiation!

Brother Max Thurian (in white), who is standing next to Pope Paul 6 (in white), has allegedly said:

"This Novus Ordo Missae [i.e., the "new mass"] is so profoundly Ecumenical that it is THEOLOGICALLY possible for Protestants to celebrate the Lord's Supper in the SAME WORDS.  [He should know because he helped to piece it together!] The new simplified Offertory does NOT anticipate a sacrificial act [as it does in the Ancient Roman Rite of Mass] and therefore does away with the difficulty which the "old" Offertory [of the Ancient Roman Rite of Mass] presented to Ecumenical efforts."
Consider but one example-the Protestant denial of the Mystery of the Transubstantiation-found in the Black Rubric which explains why no one should kneel to receive Communion!

This is EXACTLY what has been going on in the .Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church   for some time!!!



Protestant Archbishop Thomas Cranmer

Here is the actual wording of the PROTESTANT Black Rubric: "For as concerning the sacramental bread and wine, they remain still in their very natural substances and therefore may not be adored, for that were idolatry to be abhorred of all faithful christians. And as concerning the natural body and blood of our saviour christ, they are in heaven and not here." (Protestant Archbishop Thomas Cranmer, Second Prayer Book of Edward VI, Black Rubric, 1552 A.D.)

So, IF you have ever wondered WHY the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church..forbids kneeling, HERE is the reason! Through the Newspeak of praxis (actual practice) the the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.. uses this 16th Century PROTESTANT rubric of 1562 A.D.!

In reality, the clergy of the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.. are doing everyone a favor! What is this "favor"? The  the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.. clergy are preventing their people from committing the Mortal Sin of idolatry by preventing them from kneeling before a piece of mere bread and a chalice of mere wine, neither of which are Transubstantiated during the supper/meal some Catholics mistakenly think is a "mass"!

Standing is Now REQUIRED!
by these guys:

United States Conference of Catholic Bishops

We have been given to understand that in the July, 2002 Newsletter of the United States Bishops’  Committee on the Liturgy, of the infamous..Satanic.. Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.. standing to get the “host” (not on your tongue, but in your hand), is now a requirement!

 
This official Newsletter of the United States Bishops’ Committee on the Liturgy organization, of the..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church..states in part:
“The bishops of the United States have decided that the normative posture for receiving Holy Communion should be standing.  Kneeling is NOT a licit [lawful] posture for receiving Holy Communion in the dioceses of the United States of America unless the bishop of a particular diocese has derogated from this norm in an individual and extraordinary circumstance.”
In other words, will you now be arrested by the police and thrown into jail if you kneel to get a host plopped into your hand?!

This has actually happened!   We have received E-Mails from Catholics claiming that the.President of the Assembly” of their various anti-Catholic pseudo-churches actually called the police and had them arrested and thrown into jail for disturbing the peace or disturbing a religious service,  or whatever other wild excuses the.President of the Assembly” of their own anti-Catholic pseudo-churches actually imagined!  What was their crime? It was only
 kneeling to receive the PROTESTANT  non-Transubstantiated bread!

We understand that some people are also be arrested by the police and thrown into jail if they insist on having the host put on their tongue?!

WHAT are YOUR Bishops NOT telling YOU?  WHY do the Bishops NOT want you to KNEEL to get the host dropped in your hand?

Perhaps the Bishops have a conscience after all?

Apparently some of the Bishops finally woke up from there long snooze and realized that everyone who was getting a host in a kneeling position was committing the mortal sin of idolatry!  Why?

Because the “host”, whether it happens to be a donut, cornbread, coffee cake, pizza, or any other weird thing, is only a donut, cornbread, coffee cake, pizza, or any other weird thing, or even the “traditional” host of unleavened bread, and nothing more!

In other words, it is NOT Jesus Christ really and truly physically present by Transubstantiation under the species of bread (donuts, cornbread, coffee cakes, pizza, or any other weird things) and wine as it still is in the “Old Mass” of pre-Synod Vatican 2 days!

This is because this official Newsletter of the United States Bishops’  Committee on the Liturgy of July, 2002, by praxis, has officially adopted the “Black Rubric” of the Second Prayer Book of Edward VI of 1552 A.D. made up by the first Protestant Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas Cranmer, despite all kinds of vigorous fallacies, sophisms, double-talk, and psychobabble to the contrary!

Protestant Bishop Tom, while not explicitly forbidding people from kneeling to get the host in the 16th Century in England, nevertheless set the precedent that it was better NOT to kneel because it is idolatry to kneel before a piece of bread because the position of kneeling visibly and physically manifests an external act of adoration, here the adoration of the host which does NOT contain Jesus Christ, which act of kneeling, being worship, then becomes the Mortal Sin of idolatry!


5.  Argumentum Ad Ignorantiam, Argument to Ignorance

5.  Argumentum Ad Ignorantiam, Argument to Ignorance, is a fallacy in which the Sophist counts on the ignorance of his audience and takes advantage of it to conceal the weakness of his own case or misrepresent the case of his opponent.

The above..President of the Assembly” counts on the ignorance of his audience and takes advantage of it to conceal the weakness of his own case, namely his case that the ‘Novus Ordo’ is a valid liturgical Rite.

On the contrary:

According to the article, the above..President of the Assembly” is not doing too well in this regard.  Sounds as if the poor..President of the Assembly..is loosing a lot of sleep on this one!?

For example, please note where he writes in part:

“It is about time we stopped conflating individual defects with a perfect liturgical Rite into a liturgical entity despicably referred to as Novus Ordo.
Yip!  He is loosing lots of sleep, sounds like?  Very frustrated with the despicable Novus Ordo!  Why are Catholics not surprised!
6.  The  petitio principii, or begging the question

6.  The  petitio principii, or begging the question, consists in taking for granted the point which is to be proved; when this very point is used as a premise in the reasoning, the fallacy is called a vicious circle.”

The above..President of the Assembly” takes for granted that the ‘Novus Ordo’ is a valid liturgical Rite.

On the contrary:

The article makes it sound as if the above..President of the Assembly”  is exhausted in trying to convince people that the ‘Novus Ordo’ is a valid liturgical Rite.  The proof for this is that he tries to get people off the issue of the invalidity of the Novus Ordo Missae by a process called misdirection, used successfully by stage magicians for centuries!

This why above..President of the Assembly..writes, out of frustration, that:

we can quietly begin to attend the Mass in any of the other Rites that are in communion with Rome…” unless, of course, we think that the other Rites too are defective.
But then he totally capitulates and totally switches the subject to:  Let us focus on living our faith.

Poor above..President of the Assembly..is now so rattled at the end of his article that he repeats himself, apparently realizing that he is not getting anywhere and that most probably what he just wrote is a huge waste of time?!

A Huge Waste of Time

Speaking of a huge waste of time, rather than continue to prolong Our expose of the errors of the poor, by now seemingly mentally drained and exhausted, above..President of the Assembly,.We choose to have mercy on him because he is obviously not at all familiar with the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, especially on the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

It is true that he has written a total of four paragraphs in which he writes about other issues.  However, those issues are irrelevant because of the fact that the Novus Ordo Missae is per se invalid.  So, nothing else really matters - it is superfluous to the issue of validity, the subject on which We have already written above.  He obviously does not have any real answer but to suggest that those who do not like the Novus Ordo try and Eastern Rite.

Then the..President of the Assembly..totally switched the subject to:  Let us focus on living our faith.  But to live one's faith requires a valid Mass, or, as the common theological expression has it: Legem Credendi Lex Statuit Supplicandi.  [The Liturgical form of prayer becomes the standard of Faith.]  (Pope Saint Celestine I [Saturday, September 10, 422  - Tuesday, July 27, 432.)  Therefore, one can not live one's faith when the Liturgical Rite of Mass has been corrupted by. invalid.. changes!  ONLY a..valid..Mass must be used, not the per se..invalid..Novus Ordo Missae, the .invalidity. of which We have already proven above.

We actually feel sorry for both the self-identified courageouspriest, whoever he is, and also for
Fr. Okeke, because both of them are not really able to use authentic Roman Catholic Church sources, only the unreliable and problem-filled sources of the..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church!

For example, We could quote ALL of the  unchangeable, Infallible, Dogmatic Canons and Decrees of the Infallible Œcumenical Roman Catholic Council of Trent, in particular, the entire  Twenty-Second Session of the Roman Catholic Council of Trent, Being the Sixth Under the Infallible Sovereign Pontiff, Pope Pius IV:  but We limit Ourself to this one example:

“CANON VI.   If any one saith, that the Canon of the Mass contains errors, and is therefore to be abrogated [abolished]; let him be anathema. ”  This means that ALL of the .Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.. popes incurred the automatic censure of anathema, beginning with Jolly John, a.k.a. 2 J-23, who inserted the name of Saint Joseph into the Canon of the Mass, and not one of his successors removed it, thereupon also automatically incurring this same censure of anathema.
We could likewise quote other Roman Catholic Popes and Councils.  We limit Ourself to but one more example with the Infallible Œcumenical Roman Catholic Council of Florence and the Infallible Roman Catholic Pope Eugene IV, which both verified and Infallibly Decreed - Forever - The Form for the Double Consecration in the Papal Bulla Cantate Domino, at Session 11, Friday, February 4, 1442:
“40.  It [the Roman Catholic Church] uses this Form of words in the Consecration of the Lord’s Body:

        ‘For this is My Body’.  (Latin:  Hoc est enim Corpus meum).”

“41.  And [It (the Roman Catholic Church) uses this Form of words in the Consecration] of His Blood:

‘For this is the Chalice of My Blood, of the New and Everlasting Covenant; the Mystery of Faith; which will be shed for you and for many unto the remission of sins’.

(Latin:  Hic est enim calix Sanguinis mei, novi et aeterni  testamenti;  Mysterium Fidei, qui pro vobis et pro multis effundetur in remissionem peccatorum.).”

The infamous..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church..mistranslated pro multis  (for many) as for all.

The infamous Paul 6 - removed Mysterium Fidei  (the Mystery of Faith) from the Form for the Consecration of the Most Precious Blood.  This term identifies the Transubstantiation!  Said another way, without Mysterium Fidei  (the Mystery of Faith), there is no Transubstantiation, and therefore no Mass!

Pope Saint Pius V's Missale Romanum contains a section on Defects, De Defectibus, including this one:

If any omission or alteration is made in the formula of Consecration of the Body and Blood, involving a change of meaning, the Consecration is invalid.”
Paul 6 actually admitted that he himself changed the Unchangeable Infallible Dogmatic Form

Paul 6 actually admitted that he himself changed the Unchangeable Infallible Dogmatic Form:

“For PASTORAL REASONS, however, and to facilitate concelebration, we have directed that the words of the Lord be identical in each form of the can [i.e. Eucharistic Prayers #1, #2, #3, and #4].  Thus, in each eucharistic prayer, we WISH that the words be as follows:  over the bread:  Accipite et Manducate ex Hoc Omnes:  Hoc Est Enim Corpus Meum, Quod Pro Vobis Tradetur; over the chalice:  Accipite et Bibite ex Eo Omnes:  Hic Est Enim Calix Sanguinis Mei Novi et Æterni Testamenti, Qui Pro Vobis et Pro Multis Effundetur in Remissionem Peccatorum.  Hoc Facite in Meam Commemorationem.  The words Mysterium Fidei, NOW TAKEN OUT OF THE CONTEXT OF THE WORDS OF CHRIST, are said by the priest as an introduction to the acclamation of the faithful.”  (Pope Paul VI, Missalis Romani, Thursday, April 3, 1969 A.D., ¶ 6; emphasis added.)
This also means that Paul 6 automatically incurred the  anathema..of Canon 6 of the Infallible Œcumenical Roman Catholic Council of Trent, in particular, the..Twenty-Second Session of the Roman Catholic Council of Trent, Being the Sixth Under the Infallible Sovereign Pontiff, Pope Pius IV:
“CANON VI.   If any one saith, that the Canon of the Mass contains errors, and is therefore to be abrogated [abolished]; let him be anathema. ”
Solemn Papal Oath of Office

In addition, ALL of the popes of the .Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church..automatically excommunicated themselves for breaking their..Solemn Papal Oath of Office ..in which they solemnly swear before God, among other things:

“I VOW:”

“To change nothing of the received Tradition, and nothing thereof, I have found before me guarded by my God pleasing predecessors, to encroach to alter (change), or to permit any innovation therein;...”

“If I should undertake to act in anything of contrary sense, or should permit that it will be executed, Thou willst not be merciful to me on the dreadful day of Divine Justice.”

“Accordingly, without exclusion, We subject to severest excommunication anyone - be it Ourself or be it another - who would dare to undertake anything new in contradiction to this constituted Evangelic Tradition and the purity of the Orthodox Faith and the Christian Religion, or would seek to change anything by his opposing efforts, or would concur with those who undertake such blasphemous venture.”   (Liber Diurnus Romanorum Pontificum, in J.P. Migne, Patrologia Latina, published in 221 volumes, Volume 105, S. 54; emphasis added.)

In plain English, this means NONE of the fake and phony popes of the .Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church...were/are real, actual popes, and so had/have no power of any kind to do anything! So, all of the changes of the changes of the changes they made and will make mean nothing.  Their changes to the unchangeable Roman Catholic Faith, Mass, and Sacraments are null and void - the are meaningless!  It also means the Novus Ordo Missae is not only..invalid, it is also illegal!  Same for all of the Liturgical Rites for the Sacraments, etc., etc.!

We, and other Roman Catholic Prelates and Priests, and even some of the Laity, have investigated the various areas of the ..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.  This includes, but is not limited to, its so-called  faith, mass, and sacraments, with some of the results of Our own investigations made public and available on various web pages on this web site.  Plus, Our web site also includes some web pages which contain the actual text of a number of books, articles, etc., which have been written by others who have also investigated the faith, mass, and sacraments, of the ..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.

Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen's prophecy

In other words, it is because of these serious and lengthy investigations into the various areas of the .Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church, concomitant with a comparison of such things with those same areas of the Roman Catholic Church, that We know for certain, as do other such Investigators, without the umbra of any doubts of whatsoever kind, that the ..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  really and truly is, as Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen prophecized in 1948, the counterchurch, the ape of God, and the ape of the Roman Catholic Church, having nothing to offer anyone except for its demonic heresies, virulent apostasy, and the blatant fake and phony anti-Catholic   faith, mass, and sacraments.

Here is the link to Our Contents web page which has some links to some of these books, studies, articles, etc., with factual data and carefully detailed and referenced Catholic Traditional Scholarship:

http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m03.html

Some members of this said ape of the Roman Catholic Church, with its demonic heresies, virulent apostasy, and the blatant fake and phony anti-Catholic   faith, mass, and sacraments, will be in denial for various reasons, including those people who really do not want to know the Truth.

Deliberate Affected Ignorance

Sadly, some people prefer ignorance to the Truth, because they wrongly think that they can use the ignorance excuse with God on their own Day of Judgment  to try to justify their continued membership, at whatever level (Lay, Religious, Clergy), in the ..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.

On the contrary, such deliberate affected ignorance is sinfulWant proofHere it is:

Affected ignorance does not excuse from guilt, but rather aggravates it since it shows that a man is so strongly attached to sin that he wishes to incur ignorance lest he avoid sinning.  The Jews therefore sinned, as crucifiers not only of the Man-Christ, but also as of God.”  (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., [b. 1225 A.D. in Rocca Secca, Naples, Italy - d. Wednesday, March 7, 1274 A.D. in Fossa Nuova, Italy], Doctor of the Church: “Angelic Doctor”, “Common Doctor”; “Summa Theologica”, Part III, Question 47, Article 5, Reply to Objection 3.)
A word to the Wise is sufficientAn ocean of words to the Foolish can never be enough.

Now before We move on to other important issues, We now provide the above..President of the Assembly, as We have respectfully identified him in this, Our Commentary, who is, of course, Fr. Okeke, and the self-identified  courageouspriest, whoever he is, with the famous ..62 Reasons Why, In Good Conscience, Catholics CAN NOT Attend the Novus Ordo Missae:


62 Reasons Why, In Good Conscience, Catholics CAN NOT Attend the Novus Ordo Missae
Compiled by the Priests of the Diocese of Campos, Brazil


.Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church..pope JP-2 Instituted
The NUDE Novus Ordo Rite - NEW Mass
An Updated, Modernized
16th Century Protestant Memorial Supper Meal
At Papua, New Guinea on Tuesday, May 8, 1984
Visitors/Readers Must Wonder How Many V-2 clergy Do The Nude NOR Today?

Please Note: All quotes followed by an asterisk * are from The Ottaviani Intervention which consists of two parts. The first part is a brief Cover Letter to the head of the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church,  the Communist pope Paul 6, Giovanni Battista Enrico Antonio Maria Montini [b. at Concesio, Italy on Sunday, September 26, 1897; Pope:  Friday, June 21, 1963 - d. at Castel Gandolfo, Italy on Sunday, August 6, 1978], which document was signed by Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani and Antonio Cardinal Bacci, at Rome, on Thursday, September 25, 1969.   This Letter was attached to the second part of the Intervention: A Critical Study of the New Order of Mass, by a Group of Roman Theologians.

62 Reasons Why, In Good Conscience,
Catholics CAN NOT Attend the Novus Ordo Missae  - The New Mass

1. Because the New Mass is not an unequivocal Profession of the Catholic Faith (which the traditional Mass is), it is ambiguous and Protestant. Therefore since we pray as we believe, it follows that we cannot pray with the New Mass in Protestant Fashion and still believe as Catholics!

2. Because the changes were not just slight ones but actually “deal with a fundamental renovation ... a total change ... a new creation.” (Msgr. A. Bugnini, co-author of the New Mass)

3. Because the New Mass leads us to think “that truths ... can be changed or ignored without infidelity to that sacred deposit of doctrine to which the Catholic Faith is bound forever.” *

4. Because the New Mass represents “a striking departure from the Catholic theology of the Mass as formulated in Session XXII of the Council of Trent” which, in fixing the “canons,” provided an “insurmountable barrier to any heresy against the integrity of the Mystery.” *

5. Because the difference between the two is not simply one of mere detail or just modification of ceremony, but “all that is of perennial value finds only a minor place (in the New Mass), if it subsists at all.” *

6. Because “Recent reforms have amply demonstrated that fresh changes in the liturgy could lead to nothing but complete bewilderment in the faithful who already show signs of uneasiness and lessening of Faith.” *

7. Because in times of confusion such as now, we are guided by the words of our Lord: “By their fruits you shall know them.” Fruits of the New Mass are: 30% decrease in Sunday Mass attendance in U.S. (NY Times 5/24/75), 43% decrease in France (Cardinal Marty), 50% decrease in Holland (NY Times 1/5/76).

8. Because “amongst the best of the clergy the practical result (of the New Mass) is an agonizing crisis of conscience...” *

9. Because in less than seven years after the introduction of the New Mass, priests in the world decreased from 413,438 to 243,307 -- almost 50%! (Holy See Statistics)

10. Because “The pastoral reasons adduced to support such a grave break with tradition ... do not seem to us sufficient.” *

11. Because the New Mass does not manifest Faith in the Real Presence of our Lord -- the Traditional Mass manifests it unmistakably.

12. Because the New Mass confuses the REAL Presence of Christ in the Eucharist with His MYSTICAL Presence among us (proximating Protestant doctrine).

13. Because the New Mass blurs what ought to be a sharp difference between the HIERARCHIC Priesthood and the common priesthood of the people (as does Protestantism).

14. Because the New Mass favors the heretical theory that it is THE FAITH of the people and not THE WORDS OF THE PRIEST which makes Christ present in the Eucharist.

15. Because the insertion of the Lutheran :”Prayer of the Faithful” in the New Mass follows and puts forth the Protestant error that all the people are priests.

16. Because the New Mass does away with the Confiteor of the priest, makes it collective with the people, thus promoting Luther's refusal to accept the Catholic teaching that the priest is judge, witness and intercessor with God.

17. Because the New Mass gives us to understand that the people concelebrate with the priest -- which is against Catholic theology!

18. Because six Protestant ministers collaborated in making up the New Mass: George, Jasper, Shepherd, Konneth, Smith and Thurian.

19. Because just as Luther did away with the Offertory -- since it very clearly expressed the sacrificial, propitiatory character of the Mass -- so also the inventors of the New Mass did away with it, reducing it to a simple Preparation of the Gifts.

20. Because enough Catholic theology has been removed that Protestants can, while keeping their antipathy for the True Roman Catholic Church, use the text of the New Mass without difficulty. Protestant Minister Thurian (co-consultor for the 'New Mass' project) said that a fruit of the New mass “will perhaps be that the non-Catholic communities will be ale to celebrate the Lord's Supper using the same prayers as the Catholic Church.” (La Croix 4/30/69)

21. Because the narrative manner of the Consecration in the New Mass infers that it is only a memorial and not a true sacrifice (Protestant Thesis)

22. Because by grave omissions, the New Mass leads us to believe that it is only a meal (Protestant doctrine) and not a sacrifice for the remission of sins (Catholic Doctrine).

23. Because the changes such as: table instead of altar; facing people instead of tabernacle; Communion in the hand, etc., emphasize Protestant doctrines (e.g., Mass is only a meal; priest only a president of the assembly; Eucharist is NOT the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ, but merely a piece of bread, etc.)

24. Because Protestants themselves have said “the new Catholic Eucharistic prayers have abandoned the false (sic) perspective of sacrifice offered to God.” (La Croix 12/10/69)

25. Because we are faced with the dilemma: either we become Protestantized by worshiping with the New Mass, or else we preserve our Catholic Faith by adhering faithfully to the traditional Mass, the “Mass of All Time.”

26. Because the New Mass was made in accordance with the Protestant definition of the Mass: “The Lord's Supper or Mass is a sacred synaxis or assembly of the people of God which gathers together under the presidency of the priest to celebrate the memorial of the Lord.” (Par. 7 Intro. to the New Missal, defining the New Mass, 4/6/69)

27. Because by means of ambiguity, the New Mass pretends to please Catholics while pleasing Protestants; thus it is “double-tongued” and offensive to God who abhors any kind of hypocrisy: “Cursed be ... the double-tongued for they destroy the peace of many.” (Sirach 28:13)

28. Because beautiful, familiar Catholic hymns which have inspired people for centuries, have been thrown out and replaced with new hymns strongly Protestant in sentiment, further deepening the already distinct impression that one is no longer attending a Catholic function.

29. Because the New Mass contains ambiguities subtly favoring heresy, which is more dangerous than if it were clearly heretical since a half-heresy half resembles the Truth!

30. Because Christ has only one Spouse, the Catholic Church, and her worship service cannot also serve religions that are at enmity with her.

31. Because the New Mass follows the format of Cranmer's heretical Anglican Mass, and the methods used to promote it follow precisely the methods of the English heretics.

32. Because Holy Mother Church canonized numerous English Martyrs who were killed because they refused to participate in a Mass such as the New Mass!

33. Because Protestants who once converted to Catholicism are scandalized to see that the New Mass is the same as the one they attended as Protestants. One of them, Julien Green, asks: “Why did we convert?”

34. Because statistics show a great decrease in conversions to Catholicism following the use of the New Mass. Conversions, which were up to 100,000 a year in the U.S., have decreased to less than 10,000! And the number of people leaving the Church far exceeds those coming in.

35. Because the Traditional Mass has forged many saints. “Innumerable saints have been fed abundantly with the proper piety towards God by it ...” (Pope Paul VI, Const. Apost. Missale Romanum)

36. Because the nature of the New Mass is such as to facilitate profanations of the Holy Eucharist, which occur with a frequency unheard of with the Traditional Mass.

37. Because the New Mass, despite appearances, conveys a New Faith, not the Catholic Faith. It conveys Modernism and follows exactly the tactics of Modernism, using vague terminology in order to insinuate and advance error.

38. Because by introducing optional variations, the New Mass undermines the unity of the liturgy, with each priest liable to deviate as he fancies under the guise of creativity. Disorder inevitably results, accompanied by lack of respect and irreverence.

39. Because many good Catholic theologians, canonists and priests do not accept the New Mass, and affirm that they are unable to celebrate it in good conscience.

40. Because the New Mass has eliminated such things as: genuflections (only three remain), purification of the priests fingers in the chalice, preservation from all profane contact of priest's fingers after Consecration, sacred altar stone and relics, three altar clothes (reduced to one), all of which “only serve to emphasize how outrageously faith in the dogma of the Real Presence is implicitly repudiated.” *

41. Because the traditional Mass, enriched and matured by centuries of Sacred Tradition, was codified (not invented) by a Pope who was a saint, Pius V; whereas the New Mass was artificially fabricated by six Protestant ministers and a 33rd degree Freemason, i.e., Msgr. A Bugnini who was later exiled from the Vatican because of his ties with Freemasonry.

42. Because the errors of the New Mass which are accentuated in the vernacular version are even present in the Latin text of the New Mass.

43. Because the New Mass, with its ambiguity and permissiveness, exposes us to the wrath of God by facilitating the risk of invalid consecrations: “Will priests of the near future who have not received the traditional formation, and who rely on the Novus Ordo Missae with the intention of 'doing what the Church does,' consecrate validly? One may be allowed to doubt it!” *

44. Because the abolition of the Traditional Mass recalls the prophecy of Daniel 8:12: “And he was given power against the perpetual sacrifice because of the sins of the people” and the observation of St. Alphonsus de Liguori that because the Mass is the best and most beautiful thing which exists in the Church here below, the devil has always tried by means of heretics to deprive us of it.

45. Because in places where the Traditional Mass is preserved, the Faith and fervor of the people are greater. Whereas the opposite is true where the New Mass reigns (Report on the Mass, Diocese of Campos, ROMA, Buenos Aires #69, 8/81)

46. Because along with the New Mass goes also a new catechism, a new morality, new prayers, new Code of Canon law, new calendar, -- in a word, a NEW CHURCH, a complete revolution from the old. “The liturgical reform ... do not be deceived, this is where the revolution begins.” (Msgr. Dwyer, Archbishop of Birmingham, spokesman of Episcopal Synod)

47. Because the intrinsic beauty of the Traditional Mass attracts souls by itself; whereas the New Mass, lacking any attractiveness of its own, has to invent novelties and entertainment in order to appeal to the people.

48. Because the New mass embodies numerous errors condemned by Pope St. Pius V at the Council of Trent (Mass totally in vernacular, words of Consecration spoken aloud, etc. See Condemnation of Jansenist Synod of Pistia), and errors condemned by Pope Pius XII (e.g., altar in form of table. See Encyclical  Mediator Dei).

49. Because the New Mass attempts to transform the Catholic Church into a new, ecumenical church embracing all ideologies and all religions -- right and wrong, truth and error -- a goal long dreamt of by the enemies of the Catholic Church.

50. Because the New Mass, in removing the salutations and final blessing when the priest celebrates alone, shows a denial of, and disbelief in the dogma of the Communion of Saints.

51. Because the altar and tabernacle are now separated, thus marking a division between Christ in His priest-and-Sacrifice-on-the-altar, from Christ in His Real Presence in the tabernacle, “two things which of their very nature, must remain together.” (Pius XII)

52. Because the New Mass no longer constitutes a vertical worship between God and man, but rather a horizontal worship between man and man.

53. Because the New Mass, although appearing to conform to the dispositions of Vatican Council II, in reality opposes its instructions, since the Council itself declared its desire to conserve and promote the Traditional Rite.

54. Because the Traditional Latin Mass of Pope St. Pius V has never been legally abrogated and therefore remains a true rite of the Roman Catholic Church by which the faithful may fulfill their Sunday obligation.

55. Because Pope St. Pius V granted a perpetual indult, valid “for always,” to celebrate the Traditional Mass freely, licitly, without scruple of conscience, punishment, sentence or censure (Papal Bull “Quo Primum”)

56. Because Pope Paul VI, when promulgating the New Mass, himself declared. “The rite ... by itself is NOT a dogmatic definition ...” (11/19/69)

57. Because Pope Paul VI, when asked by Cardinal Heenan of England, if he was abrogating or prohibiting the Tridentine Mass, answered: “It is not our intention to prohibit absolutely the Tridentine Mass.”

58. Because “In the Libera Nos of the New Mass, the Blessed Virgin, the Apostles and all the Saints are no longer mentioned; her and their intercession thus no longer asked, even in time of peril.” *

59. Because in none of the three new Eucharistic Prayers (of the New Mass) is there any reference ... to the state of suffering of those who have died, in none the possibility of a particular Memento, thus undermining faith in the redemptive nature of the Sacrifice.*

60. Because we recognize the Holy Father's supreme authority in his universal government of Holy Mother Church, but we know that even this authority cannot impose upon us a practice which is so CLEARLY against the Faith: a Mass that is equivocal and favoring heresy and therefore disagreeable to God.

61. Because, as stated in Vatican Council I, the “Holy Spirit was not promised to the successors of Peter, that by His revelation they might make new doctrine, but that by His assistance they might inviolably keep and faithfully expound the revelation or deposit of Faith delivered through the Apostles.” (Dnz 3070)

62. Because heresy, or whatever clearly favors heresy, cannot be a matter for obedience. Obedience is at the service of Faith and not Faith at the service of obedience! In this foregoing case then, “One must obey God before men.” (Acts 5:29)


Editor’s Note: We add a 63rd Reason - The NUDE NOR’s (NOR = Novus Ordo Rite Protestant Memorial Supper Meal).   PLUS:  such things as:  Go-Go NOR’s, Polka NOR’s, Clown NOR’s, Doggie NOR’s, Nun NOR’s, Circus NOR’s, plus hundreds of other NOR’s, prove, above and beyond any shadow of a doubt in the mind of any rational, sane person who has eyes to see and ears to hear, that this garbage is The Abomination of Desolation made up by Satan in the depths of Hell which was prophecized by God the Holy Ghost through the pen of Daniel the Prophet! We seriously doubt even Protestants would have NUDE Memorial Supper Meals?!

“And in the half of the week the Victim and the Sacrifice [of the Catholic Mass] shall fail: and there shall be in the Temple the Abomination of Desolation [the NEW mass]:  and the Desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end.”  (Daniel 9:27).

They shall defile the Sanctuary of Strength, and shall take away the Continual Sacrifice [of the Catholic Mass], and they shall place there the Abomination unto Desolation [the NEW mass].” (Daniel 11:31).  N.B.:  The Jews NEVER had a Continual Sacrifice!

Part Five:  CATHOLICS

Catholics:  STOP walking in the dark in your church





CATHOLICS
 
STOP walking in the dark in your church: SEE the wickedness in the sanctuary. HEAR the Heresies in the sermons. STUDY the Blatant Apostasy!  DISCOVER the Heresies in the catechism. REALIZE these things are NOT Catholic!

On the Contrary:






CATHOLICS


STOP walking in the dark in your church:

Open Your Eyes to
SEE the wickedness in the sanctuary:




Do Roman Catholics Commit A Mortal Sin
Every Time they Go to mass or Get sacraments
At Their Local Parish Church?
YES!  ABSOLUTELY - YES!
Get the True Undeniable Facts at:
http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-mn-6606.html




NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church
Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:


This IS an Updated Protestantized Memorial Supper Meal Table
This IS an Updated Protestantized Book for the NEW Protestantized Supper Meal mass
This IS an Updated Protestantized Sanctuary
This IS an Updated Protestantized Memorial Supper Meal pseudo-mass
This IS an Updated and Protestantized Former Roman Catholic Church Building



This Photo Provides VISUAL Proof that it is
The interior of an Updated and Protestantized
Satanic.. Synod Vatican 2  pseudo-church

The above photo, of a NEW NOR (Novus Ordo Rite, a.k.a. Novus Ordo Missae), NEW mass, inside of one of the.. anti-Catholic. .Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-churches.. of.... automatically excommunicated.... Apostates.... and.... Heretics,,. very clearly, and instantly, VISUALLY identifies the ultimate reason of WHY it is that  ALL Roman Catholics commit a Mortal Sin every time they go to mass and/or get sacraments at their local parish church which is somewhat VISUALLY  SIMILAR  to the parish church in the above photo.

What does this mean?

The very clear and obvious VISUAL reason for this undeniable VISUAL fact is that this photo was taken inside of a parish church which is in fact a part of the notorious... anti-Catholic.Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church..of.... automatically excommunicated.... Apostates.... and.... Heretics.

Said another way, the above photo very clearly and instantly VISUALLY indicates, and VISUALLY shows, and VISUALLY proves, that this photo is NOT of a REAL Roman Catholic Church or Chapel interior, or of a REAL Roman Catholic Mass Offered on the Holy Altar of Sacrifice.


NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Altar of Sacrifice:


This IS A PROTESTANT Memorial Supper Meal TABLE

The form of a table shall more move the simple  [i.e. the dumb Catholics]
from the superstitious opinions of the Popish Mass
unto the right use of the Lord's Supper.



This Is How History Has Repeated Itself Concerning Altars and Tables:

“The destruction of the Altars was a measure SO DISTINCT IN ITS MEANING that we have NEVER BEEN ABLE TO CONCEIVE HOW THAT MEANING COULD BE MISUNDERSTOOD. The measure meant a bitter hatred of the Mass, and a hatred DIRECTED AGAINST THE MASS ITSELF, not merely against some obscure abuse ... Surely if these reformers HAD DESIRED ONLY TO REMOVE AN ABUSE, but were full of reverence for the great Christian Sacrifice itself, they would not have destroyed and desecrated the Altars, AND SUBSTITUTED TABLES IN THEIR PLACE, alleging as their reason, in unqualified terms, that 'the form of a table shall more move the simple from the superstitious opinions of the Popish Mass unto the right use of the Lord's Supper. For 'THE USE OF AN ALTAR IS TO MAKE SACRIFICE ON IT; THE USE OF A TABLE IS TO SERVE MEN TO EAT UPON IT' (Ridley's Works).” (“A Vindication of the Bull Apostolicae Curae, paragraph 38, titled “The Destruction of Altars”, paragraph 38, Roman Catholic Bishops of England, 1898. ; emphasis added.)



NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:


A CHAIR FOR PREACHING
A TABLE FOR MAKING A MEAL

“When we enter ornate and clean Basilicas, adorned with Crosses, Sacred Images, Altars and burning lamps, we most easily conceive devotion.  But on the other hand, when we enter the temples of the heretics, where there is nothing except A CHAIR for preaching AND A TABLE FOR MAKING A MEAL, We feel ourselves to be entering a profane hall and not the House of God.”   (Robert Cardinal Bellarmine, S.J. [b. Montepulciano, Italy, on Sunday, October 4, 1542 A.D. - d. Rome, Italy, on Friday, September 17, 1621 A.D.], Doctor of the Church, “Octava Controversia Generalis”, Liber II. Controversia Quinta, Caput XXXI; emphasis added).


Noise Belongs to Theatres
SOUND  Familiar?!

Nothing so becomes a Church as silence and good orderNoise belongs to theatres, and baths, and public processions, and market-places: but where doctrines, and such doctrines, are the subject of teaching, there should be stillness, and quiet, and calm reflection, and a haven of much repose.”  (Patriarch Saint John Chrysostom [b. Antioch, c. 347 A.D. - d. at Commana in Pontus on Friday, September 14, 407 A.D.], Patriarch of Constantinople [Thursday, February 26, 398 A.D. - Thursday, June 24, 404 A.D.], exiled from his See the 2nd time on Thursday, June 24, 404 A.D., Father and Doctor of the Catholic Church, “Homily XXX” on “Acts XIII”. 42; emphasis added.).


NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:


SOUND  Familiar?!




NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:


SOUND  Familiar?!




SOUND  Familiar?!


More anti-Catholic NEW messes, a.k.a. what they call a "mass":




NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:





NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:





NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:





NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:


Click on This Link For Vatican 2 priest ENTERTAINING Audience
(Formerly Known as "Parishioners"), DURING a New non-mass
Is He Playing for the ENTERTAINING Snake Dancing Act?




NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:


Professional Circus Snake Dancing Act to ENTERTAIN Audience
(Formerly Known as "Parishioners"), DURING a New non-mass
Click Link to See Video




NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:


A Better Way to Use a TABLE?!




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This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:





NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:
 


Which One Is the Dummy?




Where Is His Head?



NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:


2 Born-Again Salomes Dancing Before A PROTESTANT Supper Table



5 Born-Again Salomes Dancing Before A PROTESTANT Supper Table


Jesus Christ, the Eternal High Priest, did NOT Hire Salome to DANCE at His Mass.  But, yet today, born-again HERODS have born-again Salomes dance at their updated, modernized, Protestantized, New non-mass which is really the worthless Prophecized  Abomination of Desolation!

Abomination of Desolation

“And in the half of the week the Victim and the Sacrifice [of the Catholic Traditional Mass] shall fail: and there shall be in the Temple the Abomination of Desolation [the NEW mass]:  and the Desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end.”  (Daniel 9:27).

“They shall defile the Sanctuary of Strength, and shall take away the Continual Sacrifice [of the Catholic Traditional Mass], and they shall place there the Abomination unto Desolation [the NEW mass].” (Daniel 11:31).  N.B.:  The Jews NEVER had a Continual Sacrifice!

The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass was NOT instituted by the Eternal High Priest, Jesus Christ, to ENTERTAIN anyone, but to placate the Wrath of Almighty God and to be the source of Sanctifying Grace for the Immortal Souls of Catholics attending Valid Catholic Traditional Masses and receiving Catholic Traditional Sacraments.

The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass which Jesus Christ Instituted is a Holy Sacrifice made to God.  It is the unbloody renewal of the bloody agony and death of Christ on the Cross.  This is why there
were no dancers dancing at the foot of the Cross of Christ!  Not even Salome danced at the foot of the Cross of Christ!

It is a Mortal Sin of Sacrilege to have anyone dance at a REAL Holy Mass! The Mass Jesus Christ instituted is NOT for entertainment purposes! Jesus Christ did NOT perform an ENTERTAINMENT ACT during His Holy Mass, nor did Christ make His Apostles ENTERTAINERS!

ANYONE WHO GOES TO ANY NEW non-mass
AUTOMATICALLY COMMITS A MORTAL SIN EVERY TIME!

Unfortunately, many people ignore this fact, or do not know any better!  All They Want to do is to be ENTERTAINED because the NEW non-mass is a worthless, boring, waste of time!

The NEW non-mass is officially called the Novus Ordo Missae - the New Order Mass.  It is also known as the NOR - Novus Ordo Rite of mass, or the New mass, etc.


NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:


Click on This Link For Dancers ENTERTAINING Audience
(Formerly Known as "Parishioners"), DURING a New non-mass


NO
This is NOT A Roman Catholic Church Sanctuary with an Altar of Sacrifice:


Click on This Link For Vatican 2 priest ENTERTAINING Audience
(Formerly Known as "Parishioners"), DURING a New non-mass
Is He Playing for the ENTERTAINING Snake Dancing Act?

Part Six:  Important Quotes, Historical Data, Etc.


A Few Important Quotes

The anti-Catholic cabal of infiltrators has been  present almost in the very veins and heart of the Church  for well over a century, as Pope Saint Pius X lamented back in 1907:

But, since the death of Pope Pius XII, Eugenio Maria Giuseppe Giovanni Pacelli [b. at Rome, Kingdom of Italy on Thursday, March 2, 1876; Pope: Thursday, March 2, 1939 - d. at Castel Gandolfo, Italy on Thursday, October 9, 1958], they became much more brazen and made their pre-selected candidates, popes, beginning with Roncalli.  Everything to destroy the unchangeable Faith, Mass, and Sacraments of the Roman Catholic Church has been on the fast track ever since!


Freemasons Pre-Select the Novus Ordo Pope!

Freemasonry





Christ Himself has testified saying that the New Mass
..contains words which are odious in My sight.

Therefore, the real danger is attacking the Catholic Traditional Mass which is known as the Ancient Roman Rite, not attacking, as some Roman Catholics consider the Novus Ordo missae  to be, the proverbial.. Abomination of Desolation!

“And in the half of the week the Victim and the Sacrifice [of the Catholic Mass] shall fail: and there shall be in the Temple the  Abomination of Desolation [the NEW mass]:  and the Desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end”  (Daniel 9:27).

They shall defile the Sanctuary of Strength, and shall take away the Continual Sacrifice [of the Catholic Mass], and they shall place there the Abomination unto Desolation [the NEW mass]” (Daniel 11:31).  N.B.:  The Jews NEVER had a Continual Sacrifice!

The.. Novus Ordo missae.. was made up by the "Born-Again", God Destroyed, INNOVATORS, Nadab & Abiu (Leviticus 10:1-2) and (1 Paralipomenon 24:2).

The..automatically excommunicated apostate and heretic..JP-2, taught that "heaven" is NOT "a physical place"; rather, it is a state -  "a... relationship". In reality, for JP-2, Heaven is nothing more thant the proverbial Teilhardian black hole of the omega point! Shades of the pantheism of Spinoza and a sentimentalized atheism, ala Cartesian Teilhardism! Thus, in reality, a state of "nowhere"! Such things are not defects, they are blatant anti-Catholic,demonic dogmas of eternal damnation!


No wonder the..automatically excommunicated apostate and heretic..JP-2 burns in Hell!

One can only hope and pray that everyone who is in the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church..
humbly and wisely accepts the Dogmatic Doctrinal teachings and Decrees of the Roman Catholic Council of Trent on the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, to which the penalty of automatic excommunication  (anathema)  is attached for non-belief and non-acceptance:


Canons on
The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass

The Twenty-Second Session
Being the Sixth Under the Sovereign Pontiff, Pius IV,
Celebrated on the Seventeenth Day of September, MDLXII.

CANONS ON THE SACRIFICE OF THE MASS

CANON I.  If any one saith, that in the Mass a true and real Sacrifice is not offered to God; or, that to be offered is nothing else but that Christ is given us to eat; let him be..anathema.

CANON II.  If any one saith, that by those words, Do this for the commemoration of me (Luke xxii. 19), Christ did not institute the Apostles Priests; or, did not ordain that they, and other Priests should offer His own Body and Blood; let him be..anathema.

CANON III.  If any one saith, that the Sacrifice of the Mass is only a sacrifice of praise and of thanksgiving; or, that it is a bare commemoration of the Sacrifice consummated on the Cross, but not a propitiatory sacrifice; or, that it profits him only who receives; and that it ought not to be offered for the living and the dead for sins, pains, satisfactions, and other necessities; let him be..anathema.

CANON IV.  If any one saith, that, by the Sacrifice of the Mass, a blasphemy is cast upon the most Holy Sacrifice of Christ consummated on the Cross; or, that it is thereby derogated from; let him be ..anathema.

CANON V.   If any one saith, that it is an imposture to celebrate Masses in honour of the saints, and for obtaining their intercession with God, as the Church intends; let him be..anathema.

CANON VI.   If any one saith, that the Canon of the Mass contains errors, and is therefore to be abrogated [abolished]; let him be..anathema.

CANON VII.   If any one saith, that the ceremonies, vestments, and outward signs, which the Catholic Church makes use of in the celebration of Masses, are incentives to impiety, rather than offices of piety; let him be..anathema.

CANON VIII.   If any one saith, that Masses, wherein the Priest alone communicates Sacramentally, are unlawful, and are, therefore, to be abrogated [abolished]; let him be..anathema.

CANON IX.   If any one saith, that the Rite of the Roman Church, according to which a part of the Canon and the words of Consecration are pronounced in a low tone, is to be condemned; or, that the Mass ought to be celebrated in the vulgar tongue only; or, that water ought not to be mixed with the wine that is to be offered in the chalice, for that it is contrary to the institution of Christ; let him be ..anathema.

The Demonic Novus Ordo
 


A Novus Ordo Apostate Heretic Pope's Abomination of Desolation




Pope Paul 6 Referred to the New Mass as the Novus Ordo

The.President of the Assembly..is very upset because in his article he states that this thing is:  despicably referred to as the Novus Ordo by some people.

Yes, as a matter of fact, most, possibly all, Roman Catholics who are faithful to the authentic Apostolic Tradition of the Catholic Church, do in fact refer to  this abomination,  of which Christ Himself has testified saying that it. .contains words which are odious in My sight.


2 Communists Shaking Hands
P-6 and the Russian Communist Gromyko

Dear Visitors/Readers, it is, however, somewhat ironic that the.President of the Assembly..in his article fails to mention the historical fact that on Monday, May 24, 1976, the pope of the heretical and apostate..Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church created 20 new cardinals.  During this event, P-6 gave what is described as a talk, or an allocution, on this occasion during which he actually identifies the new mass as the  Novus Ordo!

This said speech has been recorded in the official document registry as the Consistorial address of May 24, 1976: AAS 68 ([1976]) p. 374.

It begins with:

“Ex quo die, abhinc iam tres annos, Nos vestri Sacri Collegii vacua loca compievimus secundum statutum numerum Cardinalium Electorum, hoc Collegium magno cum dolore alios amisit Fratres Nostros, quorum omnium pio maeroris affectu meminimus; ex altera vero parte quidam eiusdem Sacri Collegii sodales iam interea attigerunt maximam lege permissam aetatem, ob quam illis non amplius licet Romanum Pontificem eligere.....”
Eventually, P-6 makes it down to where he says:
“Usus novi Ordinis Missae minime quidem sacerdotum vel christifidelium arbitrio permittitur. Instructione autem edita die quarto decimo mensis Iunii anno millesimo nongentesimo septuagesimo primo provisum est, ut Missae celebratio antiquo ritu sineretur, facultate data ab Ordinario, tantummodo sacerdotibus aetate provectis vel infirmis, qui Divinum Sacrificium sine populo ofïerrent. Novus Ordo promulgatus est, ut in locum veteris substitueretur post maturam deliberationem, atque ad exequendas normas quae a Concilio Vaticano II impertitae sunt. ”  (emphasis added).
How about that!

In case you missed it, here it is again, with Novus Ordo emphasized, along with the English translation:

Novus Ordo promulgatus est, ut in locum veteris substitueretur post maturam deliberationem, atque ad exequendas normas quae a Concilio Vaticano II impertitae sunt.”

The Novus Ordo has been promulgated to replace the old after mature deliberation, and in order to implement Council Vatican II's decisions.”

For the proverbial Doubting Thomas, here is the complete data concerning the source:
ACTA APOSTOLICAE  SEDIS COMMENTARIUM, OFFICIALE AN. ET VOL. LXVIII TYPIS POLYGLOTTIS VATICANIS M-DCCCC-LXXVI.   An. et vol. LXVIII 30  Iunii 1976 N. 6.   ACTA  APOSTOLICAE  SEDIS COMMENTARIUM OFFICIALE Directio: Palazzo  Apostolico - Città  del Vaticano - Administratio: Libreria  Editrice Vaticana ACTA PAULI  PP. VI  SACRA CONSISTORIA.  Die XXIV mensis maii, anno MCMLXXVI, Summus Pontifex Paulus PP. VI Consistorium Secretum habuit in Aula Consistoriali Palatii Apostolici Vaticani, cuius acta ex ordine referuntur. I - SUMMI PONTIFICIS ALLOCUTIO ET NOVORUM S.R.E. CARDINALIUM CREATIO.
One must wonder IF the above author of the article thinks that Paul 6 is also despicable  because even P-6, the inventor of this garbage, called it the “The Novus Ordo”!

It should be self-evident that, as usual, the above-quoted..President of the Assembly”,  did NOT do his homework, and, as a result, has misled only God knows how many Catholics!

History Lesson on Two Heretics

John Scotus Eriugena and Berengar of Tours

John Scotus Eriugena  [b. Paris, 810 A.D. - d. 877 A.D.] was an Irish teacher, theologian, philosopher and poet, the head of the palace school under Charles the Bald [b. 823 A.D. - d. Wednesday, October 6, 877 A.D.].

Berengar of Tours, a.k.a. Berengarius of Tours,  [b. 999 A.D. - d. 1088 A.D.], was a theologian who became the Archdeacon of Angers in 1039 A.D.

In Summary:


9th CenturyJohn Scotus Eriugena

John Scotus Eriugena attacked the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in about 847 A.D.  He taught that the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is only a mere memorial meal which heresy was later used by the 16th Century Protestants and the 20th Century Modernists, NEW Theology Theologians, and anti-Catholic Infiltrators including the Communists, Illuminati, etc.

John Scotus Eriugena also taught that the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist is merely a symbol or a figure of Christ, NOT the Real Transubstantiated Presence of Jesus Christ -  this  heresy arose, at least in part, because he had actually partially revived the heresy of the old Manichæan Dualism (all matter is evil) of the 3rd Century.

851 A.D.:  Eriugena’s primary work, which the Church later condemned, was De Divisione Naturae [851 A.D.] in which he presented a large pantheistic system, thus causing him to be considered by some as the Father of anti-Scholasticism.

855 A.D.:  John Scotus Eriugena was condemned at the Council of Valence, a.k.a. Valencia, in 855 A.D. which called his heresies pultes Scotorum - the Scottish hodgepodge.

859 A.D.:  John Scotus Eriugena’s doctrine was condemned at the Council of Langres in 859 A.D.

877 A.D.:  John Scotus Eriugena was killed by his own pupils at a very advanced age in 877 A.D.

1225 A.D.: De Divisione Naturae was formally condemned by the Council of Paris in 1225 A.D.



11th CenturyBerengar of Tours, a.k.a. Berengarius of Tours
1049 A.D.:  Council of Rheims condemned Berengar as a heretic in 1049 A.D.

1050 A.D.: Pope Leo IX excommunicated Berengar at the Council of Rome in 1050 A.D.

1050 A.D.: Council of Rome condemned Berengar as a heretic in 1050 A.D.

1050 A.D.: Council of Vercelli condemned the heresy of Berengar in September, 1050 A.D.

1051 A.D.: Council of Paris condemned heretics Berengar and Bishop Eusebius Bruno.

1075 A.D.: Council of Poitiers condemned Berengar as a heretic in 1075 A.D.

1076 A.D.: Council of Saint Maixeut condemned Berengar as a heretic in 1076 A.D.

1215 A.D.: Pope Innocent III, with 4th Lateran Council, refuted Berengar's heresy.

“Innocent III crowned his eventful pontificate by convoking, in 1215, the Twelfth Ecumenical (Fourth Lateran) Council.... The Pope presided in person. In defining the Catholic doctrine of the Holy Eucharist against the heresy of Berengarius, the Council adopted the term Transubstantiation.” (Rev. J.A. Birkhaeuser, former professor of Church History and Canon Law, History of the Church, From its First Establishment to Our Own Times, Recommendation by James Cardinal Gibbons [b. at Baltimore, Maryland on Wednesday, July 23, 1834 - d. Thursday, March 24, 1921], Archbishop of Baltimore, May 18, 1888, pp. 380-381).

“The persecutions which the evil enemy [i.e. the Devil] has stirred up at various times against the most Holy Sacrifice of the Mass are a proof how sacred a thing it must be, and how obnoxious to the Devil; otherwise he would not attack it with such violence.  In the first ten centuries of the Christian Church teachers of heresy were indeed not wanting, but none of them ventured to assail the Mass, much less did they attempt to do away with it.  The heretic.. Berengarius of Tours ..was the first who presumed to speak and write against the Holy Mass.  His erroneous teaching was exposed and triumphantly refuted by the Catholic theologians of the day; it was, moreover, condemned by the General Council of the Church.” (Father Martin Cochem, Explanation of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, Second Edition, Benziger Brothers Publishers, Imprimatur, + Michael Augustine, Archbishop of New York, June 24, 1896, Chapter I, pp. 19-21; emphasis added.)

The Importance of Tradition




Nihil innovetur nisi quod traditum est.

“Hence arose the monstrous errors of Modernism, which Our Predecessor [Pope Saint Pius X] rightly declared to be the synthesis of all heresies, and solemnly condemned.  We hereby renew that condemnation in all its fulness, Venerable Brethren, and as the plague is not yet entirely stamped out, but lurks here and there in hidden places, We exhort all to be carefully on their guard against any contagion of the evil, to which we may apply the words Job used in other circumstances: It is a fire that devoureth even to destruction, and rooteth up all things that spring (Job xxxi. 12). Nor do We merely desire that Catholics should shrink from the errors of Modernism, but also from the tendencies or what is called the spirit of Modernism. Those who are infected by its [Modernism's] principles disdainfully spurn antiquity [whatever appears old or ancient], and eagerly pursue the NEW [deceptions; novelties; innovations] in everything: in their manner of speaking of Divine things, in performance of Divine Worship, in Catholic usages, even in private devotions of piety. Therefore it is Our will that the law of our forefathers should still be held Sacred:   “Nihil innovetur nisi quod traditum est.  (“Let nothing NEW be introduced but only what [Tradition] has been handed down.) “[Let there be no innovation, but keep what [Tradition] has been handed down.].”  (Pope Benedict XV, Giacomo Della Chiesa [Thursday, September 3, 1914 - Saturday, January 21, 1922], Encyclical “Ad Beatissimi Apostolorum Principis”, Appealing for Peace, November 1, 1914, ¶ 25; emphasis added.  AAS VI [1914], 578.).

Bottom Line:

Even if Catholics faithful to Tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the ones who are the true Church of Jesus Christ.”

“May God console you! ... What saddens you ... is the fact that others have occupied the Churches by violence, while during this time you are on the outside. It is a fact that they have the premises -- but you have the Apostolic Faith. They [the heretics and apostates] can occupy our churches, but they are outside the True Faith. You remain outside the places of worship, but the faith dwells within you. Let us consider: what is more important, the place or the faith? The true faith, obviously. Who has lost and who has won in this struggle -- the one who keeps the premises or the one who keeps the Faith?”

“True, the premises are good when the Apostolic Faith is preached there; they are Holy if everything takes place there in a Holy way ...”

“You are the ones who are happy; you who remain within the [Catholic] Church by your Faith, who hold firmly to the foundations of the Faith which has come down to you from Apostolic Tradition, and if an execrable jealously has tried to shake it in a number of occasions, it has not succeeded. They are the ones who have broken away from it in the present crisis.”

No one, ever, will prevail against your Faith, beloved brothers, and We believe that God will give us our Churches back some day.”

“Thus, the more violently they try to occupy the places of worship, the more they separate themselves from the [Catholic] Church. They claim that they represent the Church but in reality they are the ones who are expelling themselves from it and going astray.”

Even if Catholics faithful to Tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the ones who are the true Church of Jesus Christ.” (Patriarch Saint Athanasius [b. Alexandria, Egypt 296 A.D. - d. Alexandria, Egypt on Wednesday, May 2, 373A.D.], Patriarch of Alexandria, Egypt, Father of Orthodoxy in the Catholic Church, Coll. Selecta SS. Eccl. Patrum. Caillu and Guillou, Volume 32, pp 411-412; emphasis added.)


“[The Ancient Doctors] knew.. the capacity of innovators in the art of deception.   In order not to shock the ears of Catholics,.. they sought to hide the subtleties of their tortuous maneuvers by the use of seemingly innocuous words such as would allow them to insinuate error into souls in the most gentle manner.”

Once the Truth had been compromised, they could, by means of slight changes or additions in phraseology, distort the confession of the Faith which is necessary for our salvation, and lead the faithful by subtle errors to their eternal damnation.

(Pope Pius VI, Giovanni Angelo Braschi [Wednesday, February 15, 1775 - Thursday, August 29, 1799], using his Infallible Ordinary Magisterium, Promulgated his Encyclical “Auctorem Fidei,” Thursday, August 28, 1794, ¶ 6; emphasis added).

The Novus Ordo Rite is Invalid, Illegal, and anti-Catholic




A Catholic Priest Compared to The President of the Assembly
 
A Catholic Priest
Compared to:
The President of the Assembly
A Catholic Priest is Another Christ
The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the
Unbloody Renewal of Calvary
Only Source of Sanctifying Grace
Totally Traditional in Every Way
Greatly Blessed and Sanctified
By the Most Holy Trinity
The President of the Assembly
is Another Apostate/Heretic
The Supper meal is NOT a mass
Another Source of Sin and Vice
NEW One World Order Evil
Greatly Rejected and Condemned
By the Most Holy Trinity
Part Seven:  Catholic Discussion Forums

The Primary Duty of Charity





“Notre Charge Apostolique”, Our Apostolic Mandate

“But Catholic doctrine tells us that the primary duty of Charity does not lie in the toleration of false ideas, however sincere they may be.... Catholic doctrine further tells us that love for our neighbor flows from our love for God, Who is Father to all, and goal of the whole human family; and in Jesus Christ whose members we are, to the point that in doing good to others we are doing good to Jesus Christ Himself. Any other kind of love is sheer illusion, sterile and fleeting....  Further, whilst Jesus was kind to sinners and to those who went astray, He did not respect their false ideas, however sincere they might have appeared. He loved them all, but He instructed them in order to convert them and save them....   they show in Our Lord Jesus Christ something quite different from an inconsistent and impotent humanitarianism.”.. (Pope Saint Pius X, Giuseppe Melchiorre Sarto [b. at Riese, Lombardy-Venetia, Austrian Empire on Tuesday, June 2, 1835; Pope: Tuesday, August 4, 1903 - Thursday, August 20, 1914], Encyclical “Notre Charge Apostolique”, Our Apostolic Mandate, to the French Bishops, Monday, August 15, 1910, ¶ 27, ¶ 47; emphasis added.)


While We are encouraged by the references to.. Charity.. made by the person who is self-identified  as.. courageouspriest, namely:.. In all things charity,.. and.. Charitable discussion is encouraged,  for the obvious reason that the said web page of courageouspriest provides the Readers of that web page the opportunity to post their own comments concerning the article quoted above, nevertheless, the real basis for any discussion should be the Truth, as it is found in the authentic Catholic doctrine.

This is the purport of Pope Saint Pius X where he writes in part:

“But.. Catholic doctrine.. tells us that.. the primary duty of Charity does not lie in the toleration of false ideas, however sincere they may be.”



The one and only basis for any discussion should be Catholic doctrine.

In other words, the one and only basis for any. discussion should be..Catholic doctrine.

Yet in a public discussion forum, such as that of.. courageouspriest, it is logical and inevitable that almost everyone who posts one or more comments, will simply repeat what their sources of information have provided for them.

Therefore, IF those sources make a proper use of unchangeable authentic dogmatic doctrines of the Catholic Church, then the  discussion is not really a.. discussion,  per se,..but rather an opportunity for the participants to post their source(s) of.. Catholic doctrine, as well as to provide one or more direct quotes from such sources.

Thus, the.. discussion.. becomes only an exchange of quotes from genuine and traditional sources of the unchangeable authentic dogmatic doctrines of the Catholic Church, with perhaps a few personal comments added for good measure, whether for purposes of clarification, or how a certain person has incorporated a certain unchangeable authentic dogmatic doctrine of the Catholic Church into their own personal life, e.g. in speaking or writing to certain relatives, friends, co-workers, etc. in order to try to educate them on a certain point of said doctrine.  Such personal experiences can sometimes be a source of inspiration of how others can use the same procedure(s) with their own group.

However, such is rarely the case in a public discussion forum because there are usually one or more people who use one or more sources of information which are not really sources of unchangeable authentic dogmatic doctrines of the Catholic Church, despite the fact that such people mistakenly think they are this type of source.

When this happens, and We have seen this happen many times on the various Catholic public discussion forums, the participants, all in good faith, try to prove that those who oppose them are wrong, while they are right, and because they consider themselves to be right, they have a duty to use fraternal correction to help those of the contrary position to see the errors in their quotes from sources considered to be anything but Catholic.

What is ironic here is that each side takes the position that it is an act of Christian Charity to correct the error(s) of those who disagree with them.  Some of them may even think, or write, that they have the duty and obligation to imitate Jesus Christ, just like Pope Saint Pius X wrote in his above-quoted Encyclical “Notre Charge Apostolique”:

“But Catholic doctrine tells us that.. the primary duty of Charity does not lie in the toleration of false ideas,.. however sincere they may be.... Catholic doctrine further tells us that love for our neighbor flows from our love for God, Who is Father to all, ....  to the point that in doing good to others we are doing good to Jesus Christ Himself. Any other kind of love is sheer illusion, sterile and fleeting....  Further, whilst Jesus was kind to sinners and to those who went astray,.. He did not respect their false ideas, however sincere they might have appeared... He loved them all, but He instructed them in order to convert them and save them.... they show in Our Lord Jesus Christ something quite different from an inconsistent and impotent humanitarianism.” (emphasis added.)
So in cases like this, you have each side claiming the moral high-ground, so to speak.  Some Readers may be wont to consider this to be the proverbial "horns of a dilemma", with no winners or losers.

So what is the solution?

The First Part of the Solution

The first part of the solution is to realize the fact that public discussion forums, by their very nature,.. DO NOT HAVE.. perfect Charity, despite the wish of   courageous   priest   where he writes:.. In all things charity... Charitable discussion is encouraged.

Sorry to break the news to.. courageouspriest.. that this is NOT going to happen in the world of reality... Apparently.. courageouspriest.. is NOT aware of the reason for this?




“But how can hearts be united in perfect Charity where minds do not agree in Faith?”

The reason for this was very briefly explained by Pope Leo XIII:

But how can hearts be united in perfect Charity where minds do not agree in Faith?”  (Pope Leo XIII, Gioacchino Pecci [Wednesday, February 20, 1878 - Monday, July 20, 1903], Encyclical, Præclara Gratulationis Publicæ, The Reunion of Christendom, Wednesday, June 20, 1894, ¶ 20; emphasis added.)




Public discussion forums merely encourage a person to state one's personal OPINION.

Ultimately, ALL public discussion forums, whether operated by Catholics, and thus primarily for Catholics, merely encourage a person to state one's personal OPINION.

It is true that in some cases, a person may simply be quoting, whether directly, or indirectly, an official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church as it is historically found in a dogmatic canon or decree of a dogmatic doctrinal Council (e.g... Session 22 of the Council of Trent on the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass), or an official document of a Roman Catholic Pope (e.g. Pope Saint Pius X's Motu Proprio - a Rescript on his own initiative - in which the automatic excommunication of all heretics - especially Modernist Heretics  - was formally and officially issued).

Nevertheless, this is not always true since various apostate and/or heretical sources have influenced some of those participants in various public discussion forums, despite the fact that in some cases such forums are identified as Catholic, or something similar, as is the case at hand of .. courageouspriest who is wont to have all participants to have Charity, where he writes:.. In all things charity... Charitable discussion is encouraged.

This request would not be necessary if ALL participants were actual members of the Roman Catholic Church who were well versed in the many official dogmatic doctrines and teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.  On the contrary, one merely needs to read some of the postings on the public discussion forum of the above-identified.. courageous   priest.

Said another way, there is very little, if indeed any, real value of any real worth of a publicly-stated personal OPINION on any forum which is contrary to the Truth.

Historically, the Catholic Church has dealt with heretical errors, as found espoused in various personal OPINIONS, first in their confrontation by various Holy Saints of God, beginning with some of the Apostles, especially Saint Paul, who corrected the various heretical personal opinions of some of the people in some of the Catholic Churches he founded during his missionary travels to the Gentiles.

Then came the Apostolic Fathers, the Disciples of various Apostles.  After them there are the Fathers of the Catholic Church who defended the Catholic Faith from those who attacked it.  After them came various other writers, chief among which is the Common Doctor, a.k.a. the Angelic Doctor, Saint Thomas Aquinas.  Of course, there have also been Church Councils and many local Synods of the centuries, as well as the official documents of many Roman Catholic Popes.

Protestant Rationalism

The attacks against the Roman Catholic Church, which reached their crescendo with the Protestant Revolt of.. Rationalism, and which errors were corrected by several Roman Catholic Popes during the many Sessions of the Roman Catholic Council of Trent.

Unfortunately,.. personal opinion.. was canonized, so to speak, by Protestant.. Rationalism,.. which explains why today there are literally hundreds (maybe even thousands?) of sects of Protestantism since, by.. Rationalism,.. each  member of the many Protestant sects, is considered to be.. infallible..  when it comes to the private interpretation of Sacred Scripture.

Thus the gross failure to realize that, on a specific subject,  there can be only one  Truth,.. but innumerable errors found in a multitude of conflicting personal opinions  -  ad infinitum! This..  insidious cacophony of errors.. is orchestrated by Satan who uses pride by which the multitude of conflicting personal opinions are.. erroneously legitimized,.. carefully ignoring the fact that.. each Truth is.. absolute,.. NOT.. relative..-.. NOT subject to change.. -.. which.. relativism..is a primary doctrine of Protestant.. Rationalism.

Above, We mentioned how historically.. the Catholic Church has dealt with heretical errors,    including these two examples:

1. Session 22 of the Council of Trent on the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

2. Pope Saint Pius X's Motu Proprio - a Rescript on his own initiative - in which the automatic excommunication of all heretics - especially Modernist Heretics  - was formally and officially issued.

Now what some consider to be.. the spirit of our fathers in the faith.. has also been briefly attested by the following Roman Catholic source, who also briefly deals with the important subject of the so-called doctrine of.. Protestant.. Rationalism.. in a somewhat analogous manner, likewise because of its inherent deleterious effects, where he writes in part:

The theologian who expounds dogmas of faith must be severe in the choice of his proofs.

“The theologian who expounds dogmas of faith must be severe in the choice of his proofs; the historian must proceed with rigorous circumspection in the narration of facts, but the ascetic writer, who cites examples to illustrate truths and edify the faithful, is not held to this strict rigour. The best authorised persons in the Church, such as St. Gregory, St. Bernard, St. Frances de Sales, St. Alphonsus Liguori, Bellarmine, and many others, as much distinguished for their learning as for their piety, when writing their excellent works knew nothing of the fastidious requirements of the present day.. [this was in 1893!].. requirements which in nowise constitute progress.”


The Spirit of Our Fathers in the Faith


“In fact, if the spirit of our fathers in the faith was more simple, what is the cause of the disappearance of that ancient simplicity in the present time? Is it not the Protestant.. Rationalism.. with which,.. in our day,.. so many of our Catholics are infected? Is it not the spirit of reasoning and criticism that emanated from the Lutheran Reformation, propagated by French Philosophism, which, leading them to consider the things of God from a purely human point of view, makes them cold, and alienates them from the Spirit of God? The Venerable Louis of Blois, speaking of the ‘Revelations of St. Gertrude’ says: ‘This book contains treasures. Proud and carnal men,’ he adds, ‘who understand nothing of the Spirit of God, treat as reveries the writings of the holy virgin Gertrude, of St. Mechtilde, St. Hildegarde, and others; it is because they are ignorant of the familiarity with which God communicates Himself to humble, simple, and loving souls, and how in these intimate communications He is pleased to illumine these souls with the pure light of truth, without any shadow of error.’.. [1.  Louis of Blois, “Epist. ad Florentium.”].”  (Rev. F. X. Schouppe, S.J., S.J. “Purgatory Illustrated by the Lives and Legends of the Saints”, London: Burns & Oates, Limited; New York, Cincinnati, Chicago: Benziger Brothers; Nihil Obstat, H. M. Bayley,.. Censor Deputatus... Imprimatur, Herbertus Cardinal Vaughan, Archiepiscopus Westmonasterien. October 11, 1893. Author’s Preface, pp.  xi-xii; emphasis added.)  The above author correctly observes, among other things, that.. The theologian who expounds dogmas of faith must be severe in the choice of his proofs.

Censor, Censor Deputatus, Nihil Obstat, Imprimatur

This certainly exemplifies the function of the.. Censor Deputatus,.. a.k.a.,.. Censor, before he grants the coveted approval known as the.. Nihil Obstat.  However, the so-called.. ordinary Layman.. is most certainly not qualified to function as the.. Censor Deputatus, for reasons which should be self-evident.  Therefore, even those public discussion forums which do not post any comments until after the comments are scrutinized for their Catholic Orthodoxy, put themselves at risk.

Catholic Encyclopedia

Case in point:  Consider the.. Catholic Encyclopedia.. which is an English-language encyclopedia published in the United States of America, with the first volume published in March, 1907, and the last three volumes published in 1912.  It was followed by a master index volume in 1914 and later by supplementary volumes.

It stated:

“THE CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA, as its name implies, proposes to give its readers full and authoritative information on the entire cycle of Catholic interests, action and doctrine. What the Church teaches and has taught; what she has done and is still doing for the highest welfare of mankind; her methods, past and present; her struggles, her triumphs, and the achievements of her members, not only for her own immediate benefit, but for the broadening and deepening of all true science, literature and art all come within the scope of THE CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA.”  (Volume One, 1907... Imprimatur.. + John M. Farley, Archbishop of New York, page iv; Preface, page v.)

Volume Two contains both the.. Nihil Obstat.. and the.. Imprimatur:  “Nihil Obstat, November 1, 1907, Remy Lafort, S.T.D.,.. Censor;.. Imprimatur + John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York, page  iv.”   This same data, except for the change of the date, is also to be found in volumes 3 - 15, plus volume 16, the Index.

The first change, other than the date, is Supplement I, Volume 17:   “Nihil Obstat, 1922, Arthur J. Scanlan, D.D., Censor;.. Imprimatur.. + Patrick J. Hayes, Archbishop of New York.”

What is interesting is that the official censor, Remy Lafort, S.T.D., is listed as granting the.. Nihil Obstat.. to volumes 2-16.

Why?

Because We understand that quite possibly an unknown number of heretics contributed articles to one or more of the volumes of “The Catholic Encyclopedia”?!




Fr. Herbert Henry Charles Thurston, S.J., and Father George Tyrrell

For example: Fr. Herbert Henry Charles Thurston, S.J. wrote more than 150 articles for the Catholic Encyclopedia.  Remember the.. Nihil Obstat, November 1, 1907, Remy Lafort, S.T.D.,..  Censor.. for the.. Catholic Encyclopedia. What is of concern includes the fact that:

1. Thurston attributed the phenomena of stigmata to the effects of suggestion.[5]

2.  He was also a close friend of Father George Tyrrell, a fellow Jesuit priest who was harshly sanctioned by the Catholic Church for his Modernist theological opinions. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Thurston)

[5.]  Nickell, Joe. (1993). Looking for a Miracle: Weeping Icons, Relics, Stigmata, Visions & Healing Cures. Prometheus Books. p. 224. ISBN 1-57392-680-9

We have included the Modernist Heretic, Father George Tyrrell, a.k.a. George Tyrell, S.J., among Our listing of Modernist Heretics at:
http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m120.html

For your convience, here is the extract:

Father George Tyrrell, a.k.a. George Tyrell, S.J., [b. at 91 Dorset Street, Dublin, Ireland on February 6, 1861 - d. on July 15, 1909]

He was a Modernist Heretical theologian and scholar, as well as a Jesuit Priest, until his expulsion from the Jesuit Order. His attempts to evolve and adapt Roman Catholic teaching in the context of Modernism made him a key figure among Modernist Heretics in the Roman Catholic Church in the late 19th Century.

Tyrrell was disciplined under the Roman Catholic Pope Saint Pius X for claiming:
"the right of each age to adjust the historico-philosophical expression of Christianity to contemporary certainties, and thus to put an end to this utterly needless conflict between faith and science which is a mere theological bogey."

Tyrrell was expelled from the Jesuit Order in 1906 and suspended from the Sacraments the following year. He was given Extreme Unction on his deathbed on July 15, 1909, but he was denied burial in a Roman Catholic cemetery.

Although he was denied a Catholic burial, Tyrrell was, in a real sense, "vindicated" by the Convention of Modernist Heretics, a.k.a. Synod Vatican 2 [Thursday, October 11, 1962 - Wednesday, December 8, 1965].

His name was indeed mentioned during the Synod, but as an apostate and heretic by Cardinal Ruffini who said that.. the Church cannot be called a "sacrament" because, for one reason, this is precisely what "the prince of the Modernists", the "apostate priest", George Tyrrell wanted to call it.

It should also be noted that when the Modernist Heretic, 2nd Pope John 23rd called for Synod Vatican 2.. [Thursday, October 11, 1962 - Wednesday, December 8, 1965],.. this Modernist Heretic used much of the imagery and language that Tyrrell had used in a famous letter of 1908 to Cardinal Mercier.

Therefore, along with other Modernist Heretics, he is also partly responsible for Nouvelle Théologie - "the NEW Theology" - a.k.a. "neo-Modernism" that played a monumental role in the arguments, deliberations, and documents of Synod Vatican 2, as.. verified by David G. Schultenover, on the last page of his critical study of Tyrrell's thought, entitled "George Tyrrell: In Search of Catholicism" (Shepherdstown, West Virginia: Patmos Press, 1981), who writes:

"Anyone who has studied both him [Tyrrell] and the documents of Vatican II will recognize his principles [of the Heresy of Modernism] reborn on nearly every page"!
Historically, it has been Catholic practice, going back to the days of the Apostles, to shun Heretics who refused to repent of their errors.  Therefore, for what reason(s) was Fr. Herbert Henry Charles Thurston, S.J.  a.. close friend.. of this notorious Modernist Heretic?  (Birds of a feather?)

Remember, Fr. Herbert Henry Charles Thurston, S.J. was.. also a close friend of Father George Tyrrell, a fellow Jesuit priest who was harshly sanctioned by the Catholic Church for his Modernist theological opinions.

Therefore, does the “The Catholic Encyclopedia” possibly contain heretical articles written by Fr. Herbert Henry Charles Thurston, S.J.?

As a warning to everyone, for the record, here is a partial list of some of some of Thurston’s contributions to “The Catholic Encyclopedia” by subject:

Beatrix
Bells
Catholic
Chasuble
Cincture
Easter
John Belasyse
Lunette
Menologium
Monk
Pope Clement VII
Prayer-Books
Processions
Property Ecclesiastical
Psalterium
Pyx
Regalia
Reginald Pole
Relics
Reliquaries
Reservation of the Blessed Sacrament
Richard I, King Of England
Rings
Ritualists
Roger of Hoveden
Roger of Wendover
Roman Catholic
Roman Processional
Rotuli
Santa Casa di Loreto
Seal
Shrovetide
Sign of the Cross
St. Acca
St. Ælred
St. Agilulfus
St. Ailbe
St. Alban
St. Alcmund
St. Aldegundis
St. Aldhelm
St. Alfrida
St. Alfwold
St. Alnoth
St. Alto
St. Andrew the Scot
St. Angilbert
St. Boisil
St. Botulph
St. Brogan
St. George
St. Hilda
St. Januarius
St. Simeon Stylites the Elder
St. Simeon Stylites the Younger
St. Thomas the Apostle
St. Valentine
Stylites (Pillar Saints)
Symbolism
Synod of Whitby
Tenebræ
Thanksgiving before and after Meals
The Bridge-Building Brotherhood
The Cross and Crucifix in Liturgy, in Cross and Crucifix
The Elevation
The Holy Lance
The Holy Shroud (of Turin)
The Lord's Prayer
The Primer
The Rambler
The Religion of Shakespeare
The Royal Declaration
The Theatre
Use of York
Use of Numbers in the Church
Ven. Bede
Ven. Robert Southwell
Visits to the Blessed Sacrament
Washing of Feet and Hands
Welsh Church
William the Conqueror
Witchcraft
Some may argue that not everything Thurston wrote was heretical since at least everything else he wrote in the above article seems to be correct?

This statement reminds Us of the warning of Pope Saint Pius X:

“18. This will appear more clearly to anybody who studies the conduct of Modernists, which is in perfect harmony with their teachings. In their writings and addresses they seem not infrequently to advocate doctrines which are contrary one to the other, so that one would be disposed to regard their attitude as double and doubtful. But this is done deliberately and advisedly, and the reason of it is to be found in their opinion as to the mutual separation of science and faith. Thus in their books [and in their articles for The Catholic Encyclopedia] one finds some things which might well be approved by a Catholic, but on turning over the page one is confronted by other things which might well have been dictated by a rationalist......   having for this purpose blotted out the old theology, endeavor to introduce a NEW theology     which shall support the aberrations of philosophers.” (Pope Saint Pius X, Giuseppe Melchiorre Sarto [b. at Riese, Lombardy-Venetia, Austrian Empire on Tuesday, June 2, 1835; Pope: Tuesday, August 4, 1903 - d.  [b. at Riese, Lombardy-Venetia, Austrian Empire on Tuesday, June 2, 1835; Pope: Tuesday, August 4, 1903 - d. at the Apostolic Palace, Rome, Kingdom of Italy, on Thursday, August 20, 1914], Encyclical “Pascendi Dominici Gregis”, On the Doctrine of the Modernists, Sunday, September 8, 1907, ¶ 18; emphasis added).
For the record, Tyrrell    was disciplined under the Roman Catholic Pope Saint Pius X for claiming:
“the right of each age to adjust the historico-philosophical expression of Christianity to contemporary certainties, and thus to put an end to this utterly needless conflict between faith and science which is a mere theological bogey.”
It should also be noted that when  the Modernist Heretic, 2nd Pope John 23rd   called for Synod Vatican 2 [Thursday, October 11, 1962 - Wednesday, December 8, 1965], this Modernist Heretic, 2nd Pope John 23rd,  used much of the imagery and language that Tyrrell had used in his infamous letter of 1908 to Cardinal Mercier.

Therefore, along with other Modernist Heretics, he is also partly responsible for  Nouvelle Théologie - “the NEW Theology”- a.k.a. “neo-Modernism”    that played a monumental role in the arguments, deliberations, and documents of Synod Vatican 2, as verified by David G. Schultenover, on the last page of his critical study of Tyrrell's    thought, writes:

Anyone who has studied both him  [Tyrrell] and the documents of Vatican II will recognize his principles [of the Heresy of Modernism]     reborn on nearly every page”!  (“George Tyrrell: In Search of Catholicism” (Shepherdstown, West Virginia: Patmos Press, 1981); emphasis added.)
In any event, the fact  that.. Thurston attributed the phenomena of stigmata to the effects of suggestion.[5].. is blatantly in error!  How so?



Father Augustin Poulain, S.J.

It is ironic, considering how Fr. Thurston, who.. wrote more than 150 articles for the Catholic Encyclopedia,.. and yet it is this very same.. Catholic Encyclopedia.. that provides the following data on the subject of the stigmata, written by Augustin Poulain, S.J., [b. on Thursday, December 15, 1836 - d. on Saturday, July 19, 1919], who writes in part:

“To sum up, there is only one means of proving scientifically that the imagination, that is auto-suggestion, may produce stigmata:  instead of hypothesis, analogous facts in the natural order must be produced, namely wounds produced apart from a religious ideaThis had not been done.” (op. cit.; emphasis added.)
That was written in 1912.  Now, over 100 years later, near the end of 2017, to the best of Our knowledge, there are still no.. analogous facts in the natural order, and, therefore, this still has.. not been done!

The reason We have mentioned the fact that the.. Nihil Obstat, by Remy Lafort, S.T.D.,.. Censor, is that this Censor's name is found in volumes 2 through 16 of “The Catholic Encyclopedia”!




Analogous Facts in the Natural Order must Be Produced.

Because Father..Thurston attributed the phenomena of stigmata to the effects of suggestion.. without regard to the requirement of Augustin Poulain, S.J. that,.. instead of hypothesis, analogous facts in the natural order must be produced, namely wounds produced apart from a religious idea. This had not been done.




Father Schouppe, S.J.

Father Thurston was perhaps not aware of the fact that yet another Jesuit Priest, Father F. X. Schouppe, S.J., had written the following concerning the Spiritual Life as quoted above, but, for the convience of the Reader, it is partially reproduced here:

“In fact, if the spirit of our fathers in the faith was more simple, what is the cause of the disappearance of that ancient simplicity in the present time?.. Is it not the Protestant..  Rationalism.. with which,.. in our day,.. so many of our Catholics are infected?.. Is it not the spirit of reasoning and criticism that emanated from the Lutheran Reformation, propagated by French Philosophism, which, leading them to consider the things of God from a purely human point of view, makes them cold, and alienates them from the Spirit of God?.. The Venerable Louis of Blois, speaking of the ‘Revelations of St. Gertrude’ says: ‘This book contains treasures... Proud and carnal men,’.. he adds,.. who understand nothing of the Spirit of God,.. treat as reveries the writings of the holy virgin Gertrude, of St. Mechtilde, St. Hildegarde, and others;.. it is because they are ignorant of the familiarity with which God communicates Himself to humble, simple, and loving souls,.. and how in these intimate communications He is pleased to illumine these souls with the pure light of truth, without any shadow of error.’.. [1.  Louis of Blois, “Epist. ad Florentium.”].”  (Rev. F. X. Schouppe, S.J., “Purgatory Illustrated by the Lives and Legends of the Saints”, London: Burns & Oates, Limited; New York, Cincinnati, Chicago: Benziger Brothers;..Nihil Obstat, H. M. Bayley,.. Censor Deputatus... Imprimatur,..+ Herbertus Cardinal Vaughan, Archiepiscopus Westmonasterien. October 11, 1893. Author’s Preface, pp.  xi-xii;; emphasis added.)
This obviously calls into question Father Thurston's apparent lack of familiarity with Ascetical and Mystical Theology because Father.. Thurston attributed the phenomena of stigmata to the effects of suggestion... Thus the credibility of Father Thurston is questionable on this issue.

Then there is another issue concerning Father Thurston, to wit, his being.. a close friend of Father George Tyrrell, a fellow Jesuit priest who was harshly sanctioned by the Catholic Church for his Modernist theological opinions.

Historically, all Catholics are required to avoid heretics.




Saint Paul the Apostle

Saint Paul wrote this to the Romans:

“Now I beseech you, brethren, to.. mark them who make dissensions and offences contrary to the doctrine which you have learned, and avoid them... For they that are such, serve not Christ our Lord, but their own belly; and by pleasing speeches and good words, seduce the hearts of the innocent.” (Romans 16:17-18; emphasis added.).
Saint Paul wrote that Catholics are to..avoid heretics... Do not be their friends, especially do not be..a close friend of..one or more heretics.

Saint Paul  wrote this to the Galatians:

But though We, or an angel from heaven, preach a Gospel to you besides that which We have preached to you, let him be..anathema...As We said before, so now I say again:  If any one preach to you a Gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be..anathema. ” (Galatians 1:8-9.)

Saint Paul declares heretics are to be..anathema.

Saint Paul the Apostle was very clear on this issue where he writes to Bishop Titus:

A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition,..avoid:  Knowing that he, that is such an one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.” (Titus 3:10-11).
Once again Saint Paul requires that Catholics are to..avoid heretics.  Do not be their friend, especially..a close friend of ..one or more heretics.

Saint Paul obviously does NOT permit anyone to be..a close friend of ..any Heretic!




Bishop Saint Irenæus

The same is true of this Father of the Catholic Church who teaches:

“That is why  it is surely necessary to avoid them..[heretics], while cherishing with the utmost diligence the things pertaining to the Church, and to lay hold of the tradition of truth. . . . What if the apostles had not in fact left writings to us? Would it not be necessary to follow the order of tradition, which was handed down to those to whom they entrusted the churches?” (Bishop Saint Irenæus [b. Proconsular Asia c. 130 A.D. - d. Lyons, France either on Monday, June 28, or Monday, August 23, in about 202 A.D.], Bishop of Lyons, Father of the Catholic Church.  He was a Disciple of Bishop Saint Polycarp [c. 69 A.D. - d. martyred on Saturday, February 23, 166 A.D.].  Saint Polycarp, in turn, was a Disciple of Saint John the Apostle, Evangelist and author of the Apocalypse [b.  ?  A.D. - d. Ephesus, c. 101 A.D.], who made Saint Polycarp the Bishop of Smyrna.  Saint Polycarp is an Apostolic Father of the Catholic Church.  This quotation is from Bishop Saint Irenæus,..Against the Heresies,.. {written 180 A.D. - 199 A.D.}, Book 3:4:1 [A.D. 189]).




Father Saint Vincent of Lerins

Another source  also requires the..anathema:

“It is manifestly and clearly shown, that it is an established law, in the case of almost all heresies, that they [heretics] evermore delight in profane novelties, scorn the decisions of antiquity, and, through oppositions of science falsely so called, make shipwreck of the faith. On the other hand, it is the sure characteristic of Catholics to keep that which has been committed to their trust by the holy Fathers, to condemn profane novelties, and, in the Apostle’s words, once and again repeated, to.. anathematize..every one who preaches any other doctrine than that which has been received...[“But though We, or an angel from heaven, preach a Gospel to you besides that which We have preached to you, let him be..anathema...As We said before, so now I say again:  If any one preach to you a Gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be..anathema.” Galatians 1:8-9.].  (Father Saint Vincent of Lerins [b. Toul, France, c. 400 A.D. - d. Island of Lerins, c. 450 A.D.],..A Commonitory..[an aid to memory]..for the Antiquity and Universality of the Catholic Faith Against the Profane Novelties of All Heresies, Chapter XXIV [24],..Continuation of the Exposition of 1 Timothy 6:20, ¶ 63; emphasis added.)





Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P.

“Hold firmly that our Faith is IDENTICAL with that of the Ancients.  Deny this, and you dissolve the unity of the Church.”  (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., [b. 1225 A.D. in Rocca Secca, Naples, Italy - d. Wednesday, March 7, 1274 A.D. in Fossa Nuova, Italy], Doctor of the Church: “Angelic Doctor”, “Common Doctor”; “Disputations Concerning Truth”, 14, 12).





Fourth Œcumenical Council, the First Council of Chalcedon

We have only one doctrine;..this is the Faith of the Doctors of the Church;..this is the Faith of the Holy Apostles;..this is the Faith which has saved the world.”  (Fourth Œcumenical Council, the First Council of Chalcedon [Sunday, October 8, 451 A.D. -  Wednesday, November 1, 451 A.D.]  emphasis added.)





Seventh Œcumenical Council, the Second Council of Nicæa

“We preserve the teachings of the Fathers [of the Church];..We..anathematize..those who add or subtract anything.” (Seventh Œcumenical Council, the Second Council of Nicæa [Thursday, September 24, 787 A.D. - Friday, October 23, 787 A.D.]  emphasis added.)





The Council of Trent

“But forasmuch as it is not enough to declare the Truth, if errors be not laid bare and repudiated, it hath seemed good to the Holy Synod to subjoin these Canons, that all the Catholic Doctrine being already recognized, may now also..understand what are the heresies which they ought to guard against and avoid.” (“Dogmatic Canons and Decrees”, New York the Devin-Adair Company 1912, “The Council of Trent”, Imprimatur John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York, June 22, 1912, Session XIII, Thursday, October 11, 1551,..Decree Concerning the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist,..Chapter VIII,..On the Use of This Admirable Sacrament,..pages 79 - 81;  emphasis added.)

Some Readers may be wont to take the position that perhaps Father Thurston did not know that his..
 close friend,.. one..Father George Tyrrell,..was a Modernist Heretic?

On the contrary:

1.  Because of the fact that ..Father George Tyrrell, was harshly sanctioned by the Catholic Church for his Modernist theological opinions,..having been disciplined under the Roman Catholic Pope Saint Pius X.

2.  Because of the fact that..Father George Tyrrell,..was expelled from the Jesuit Order in 1906.

3.  Because of the fact that..Father George Tyrrell,..was..suspended from the Sacraments the following year, ..in 1907.

4.  Because of the fact that..Father George Tyrrell,..was denied burial in a Roman Catholic cemetery after his death on Thursday, July 15, 1909.

Each one of these four points was public knowledge, especially in Rome and also in the Jesuit Order, of which Father Thurston was also a member.  Because Father Thurston was..a close friend of Father George Tyrrell, a fellow Jesuit priest who was harshly sanctioned by the Catholic Church for his Modernist theological opinions,..how is it possible that Father Thurston would NOT have know about these four points?

Would not..Father George Tyrrell ..have complained to his..close friend..Father Thurston, about the first three of these four points, when he was:  1)..harshly sanctioned;  2)..expelled; and, 3).. suspended from the Sacraments?

So, Father Thurston would have known, in one way or another, these things about his..close friend of Father George Tyrrell,..who was a Modernist Heretic.  It would be a contradiction to take a different position.

“This is why..it is surely necessary to avoid them ..[the heretics].

Therefore, because Father Thurston, according to Wikipedia,..was also a close friend of Father George Tyrrell, a fellow Jesuit priest who was harshly sanctioned by the Catholic Church for his Modernist theological opinions,..it is only logical to take the position that perhaps Father Thurston was a secret Modernist Heretic?




Doctor of Sacred Theology (Sacrae Theologiae Doctor - S.T.D.)

In any event, since the very knowledgeable, and very experienced, Remy Lafort, S.T.D.,..Censor, may have possibly let slip by, without his notice, one or more possible deliberately vague terms of Father Thurston (IF in fact Father Thurston was a covert Modernist Heretic) in some of his..more than 150 articles for the Catholic Encyclopedia, despite the fact that Father Remy Lafort was a Doctor of Sacred Theology (Sacrae Theologiae Doctor - S.T.D.), how then are those who own and operate the various "Catholic" public discussion forums more qualified and experienced than Remy Lafort, S.T.D.?




Dual Meanings

Please remember that before, during, and after..Synod Vatican 2..a dual meaning was sometimes ascribed to certain traditional terms so that the subtle Heresy of Modernism and the Heresy of the New Theology could slide through virtually undetected!

Some Readers may object, claiming that this dual meaning, when it IS used, is not really all that apparent, if at all, to Roman Catholics Faithful, concerning the unchangeable dogmatic doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church?  But when is it not possible to use terms with dual meanings, terms which are vague and ambiguous?  On the contrary, such terms were used at Synod Vatican 2, along with blatant lies, as these two graphics prove to everyone:


 

Encyclical “Auctorem Fidei”
On the contrary, this evil nonsense was condemned by Pope Pius VI:



“[The Ancient Doctors] knew the capacity of innovators in the art of deception. In order not to shock the ears of Catholics,..they sought to hide the subtleties of their tortuous maneuvers by the use of seemingly innocuous words..such as would allow them to insinuate error into souls in the most gentle manner.”

“Once the Truth had been compromised,..they could,..by means of slight changes or additions in phraseology,..distort the confession of the Faith..which is necessary for our salvation, and lead the faithful by subtle errors to their eternal damnation.”

“This manner of dissimulating and lying is vicious, regardless of the circumstances under which it is used. For very good reasons it can never be tolerated in a Synod of which the principal glory consists ..above all in teaching the Truth with clarity and excluding all danger of error.”

“Moreover, if all this is sinful,..it cannot be excused in the way that one sees it being done, under the erroneous pretext that the seemingly shocking affirmations in one place are further developed along orthodox lines in other places,..and..even in yet other places corrected; as if allowing for the possibility of either affirming or denying the statement, or of leaving it up the personal inclinations of the individualsuch has always been the fraudulent and daring method used by innovators to establish error...It allows for both the possibility of promoting error and of excusing it.”

It is as if the innovators pretended that they always intended to present the alternative passages, ..especially to those of simple faith who eventually come to know only some part of the conclusions of such discussions which are published in the common language for everyone's use.”

“Or again, as if the same faithful had the ability on examining such documents to judge such matters for themselves without getting confused and avoiding all risk of error. It is a most reprehensible technique for the insinuation of doctrinal errors and one condemned long ago by our predecessor Saint Celestine who found it used in the writings of Nestorius, Bishop of Constantinople, and which he exposed in order to condemn it with the greatest possible severity. Once these texts were examined carefully, the impostor was exposed and confounded, for he expressed himself in a plethora of words, mixing true things with others that were obscure; mixing at times one with the other in such a way that he was also able to confess those things which were denied while at the same time possessing a basis for denying those very sentences which he confessed.”

“In order to expose such snares, something which becomes necessary with a certain frequency in every Century, no other method is required than the following:
“WHENEVER IT BECOMES NECESSARY TO EXPOSE STATEMENTS WHICH DISGUISE SOME SUSPECTED ERROR OR DANGER UNDER THE VEIL OF AMBIGUITY,..ONE MUST DENOUNCE THE PERVERSE MEANING UNDER WHICH THE ERROR OPPOSED TO CATHOLIC TRUTH IS CAMOUFLAGED.” (Pope Pius VI, Giovanni Angelo Braschi [Wednesday, February 15, 1775 - Thursday, August 29, 1799], using his Infallible Ordinary Magisterium, Promulgated his Encyclical “Auctorem Fidei,” Thursday, August 28, 1794, ¶ 6; emphasis added).


So, pray tell, how many Laity, who are amateur quasi-Doctors of Sacred Theology (Sacrae Theologiae Doctor - S.T.D.), who own and/or operate such..Catholic public discussion forums, .virtually..infallible..because of their great expertise in the subjects of Scholastic Philosophy, Thomistic Theology, Moral Theology, Doctrinal Theology, Ascetical Theology, Mystical Theology, Sacred Scripture, Canon Law, etc., are so intellectually well-equipped to be able to immediately recognize each and every error opposed to Catholic Truth which has been deliberatelycamouflaged by the Modernistic Heretics and the New Theology Heretics, when even those who have studied such subjects must be extremely careful? \
Encyclical “Depuis Le Jour”, On the Education of the Clergy

This is why Pope Leo XIII properly instructed the Roman Catholic Clergy of his time with these requirements which are..valid..ad infinitum:

“In the face of the combined efforts of incredulity and heresy to bring about the ruin of the Catholic Faith, it would be a real crime for the Clergy [Priests and all Prelates of whatever rank of Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction] to remain in a state of hesitancy and inactivity...In such an outpouring of error and conflict of opinion, the Clergy must not be faithless to their mission which is to defend Dogma - when it is assaulted,..Morality - when it is mocked,..and Justice - which is frequently outraged.”

“[To each member of the Clergy, it belongs] to make himself a road block to the attacks of error and the deceits of heresy;..to watch the tactics of the wicked who war against the Faith....;..to unmask the plots and to reveal the ambushes and traps;..they must warn naive people,..strengthen those who are timid, and open the eyes of the blinded.”

Superficial erudition,..or merely common knowledge,..will not suffice for all of this - there is the need for the solid, profound and continuous study [by all the Clergy] of a massive amount of Doctrinal knowledge which must be sufficient to cope with the subtlety and remarkable cunning of our Modern opponents....” (Pope Leo XIII, Gioacchino Vincenzo Pecci [Wednesday, February 20, 1878 - Monday, July 20, 1903], Encyclical “Depuis Le Jour”, On the Education of the Clergy, Friday, September 8, 1899, ¶ 48 “In Doctrina”; emphasis added.)

Laymen Who Wrongly Think They Are Priests and Bishops

Laymen Who Wrongly Think They Are Priests and Bishops

laymen..who wrongly think they are..priests..
and..bishops of the apostate and heretical
Satanic...Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church

On the contrary, in vain do such as these attempt to keep their..Catholic public discussion forums ..free from all heretical errors, especially the vague, subtle, ambiguous,..deliberately camouflaged..
heresies which the heretics at Synod Vatican 2, and thereafter, have used, and continue to use, to flood, and thereby to destroy, or at least to cause great confusion, concerning the unchangeable Truths of the Catholic Church, if for no other reason than that they have never received the Graces of the Sacrament of the Holy Priesthood and the Holy Episcopacy, not to mention never having really studied Catholic Doctrine concerning which Pope Leo XIII is very emphatic that each member of the Catholic Clergy (not to be confused with the..laymen who wrongly think they are priests ..and..bishops of the apostate and heretical...Satanic...Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church)..must..make himself a road block to the attacks of error and the deceits of heresy.  The Pope also made it very clear that   superficial erudition,..or merely common knowledge,..will not suffice for all of this - there is the need for the solid, profound and continuous study [by all the Clergy] of a massive amount of Doctrinal knowledge which must be sufficient to cope with the subtlety and remarkable cunning of our Modern opponents.

Six Modern Opponents

This includes these 6..Modern opponents:

Excommunications  Latae Sententiae

Therefore, the following warning is necessary:

WARNING!


“We do by Our Apostolic Authority repeat and confirm both that Decree of the Supreme Sacred Congregation and those Encyclical letters of Ours,..adding the Penalty of Excommunication against their contradictors, and this We declare and Decree that should anybody, which may God forbid, be so rash as to defend any one of the propositions, opinions or teachings condemned in these documents he falls,..ipso facto,..[automatically by the fact itself]  under the censure contained under the chapter ‘Docentes’ of the Constitution ‘Apostolicae Sedis’, which  is the first among the ..Excommunications.. latae sententiae....” (Pope Saint Pius X, Giuseppe Melchiorre Sarto [Tuesday, August 4, 1903 - Thursday, August 20, 1914], Motu Proprio, “Præstantia Scripturæ Sacræ”, ¶ 5, Monday, November 18, 1907. Automatic Excommunication of all Heretics, especially the Modernist Heretics, and which today also includes The NEW Theology Theologian Heretics, some of whom were “periti” - experts - at Synod Vatican 2; - after they were actually invited to attend Synod Vatican 2 by..the Modernist Heretic and Freemason, the 2nd pope John 23rd; emphasis added).

The owners/operators of all of the Catholic public discussion forums on the internet need to know and to realize that  Our Ecclesiastical Office HAS NOT, IS NOT, AND WILL NOT, issue one or more prohibition(s) and/or condemnation(s) against the posting of any heresy, including the Heresy of Modernism, whether blatant or disguised, on any/all so-called Catholic public discussion forums, by whatsoever name(s) they are known, or will be known, because..the Motu Proprio “Præstantia Scripturæ Sacræ”, of Pope Saint Pius X, which has been in effect since it was issued, and which will continue to remain in full and complete effect until the end of the world, because even at the end of the world, there will still be heretics and apostates,..is more than sufficient to prohibit and condemn any/all heretical activity of whatsoever kind, genus, and nature, on any/all  any/all so-called Catholic public discussion forums,..by whatsoever name(s) they are known, or will be known.

However, lest there be any misunderstanding(s),..what We,..and Our Ecclesiastical Office, are doing is merely reminding all Catholics,..including, but not limited to, the aforesaid so-called Catholic public discussion owner/operator forums, by whatsoever name(s) they are known, or will be known, .. of the condign automatic Excommunication of any/all persons who, in whatsoever way, and by whatsoever means, automatically incur the said condign automatic Excommunication for the dissemination, propagation, defense, and/or teaching of any/all heresies, especially the Heresy of Modernism, in virtue of the Motu Proprio..“Præstantia Scripturæ Sacræ”, of Pope Saint Pius X, which retains its full force until the end of the world.

However, despite the full and complete effects of the said condign automatic Excommunication, as found in the  the Motu Proprio “Præstantia Scripturæ Sacræ”, of Pope Saint Pius X, it is, as Pope Saint Pius X himself stated that this is:

“to be understood as..salvis poenis, which may be incurred by those who have violated in any way the said documents, as propagators and defenders of heresies, when their propositions, opinions and teachings are heretical, as has happened more than once in the case of the adversaries of both these documents, especially when they advocate the errors of the Modernists that is, the synthesis of all heresies.”




Pope Pius VI's Warning Against  Innocuous Words

In addition to the Motu Proprio, “Præstantia Scripturæ Sacræ”, of Pope Saint Pius X, there is also Pope Pius VI who teaches and warns the Catholic Faithful, that:

[The Ancient Doctors] knew the capacity of innovators in the art of deception. In order not to shock the ears of Catholics, they sought to hide the subtleties of their tortuous maneuvers by the use of seemingly innocuous words such as would allow them to insinuate error into souls in the most gentle manner.
Such hidden subtleties, vis-à-vis..tortuous maneuvers..which deliberately utilize subterfuge by way of seemingly innocuous words ..which have been injected with heretical errors, require not only doctrinal expertise, but also at least a basic knowledge of Scholastic Philosophy, not only by the owners and operators of the various Catholic public discussion forums, but also by those who post whatever data they post to these said forums.  Why?

Because it should be expected that at least some confused Catholics turn to various Catholic public discussion forums for truthful answers to their frustrated questions.  But not all answers are accurate, for various reasons, and thus such erroneous answers can too easily cause Catholics to become victims, so to speak, of such postings, which, too often in some cases, are based on erroneous opinions, not to mention some facts which are merely various heresies of Modernism and the New Theology Heresy, found in various sources of the virtual mountains of erroneous literature from the Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.

Giuseppe Cardinal Siri:  Opinions Replace Truth;  Liberal and Conservative


Cardinal Giuseppe Siri, , Archbishop of Genoa, Italy
[b. Sunday, May 20, 1906 in Genoa, Italy - d. Tuesday, May 2, 1989]

Because of its obvious relevance, here are some observations by Cardinal Siri concerning the subject of opinion.  It is self-evident that the various Catholic public discussion forums thrive on opinions.  Cardinal Siri’s observations on opinion need considering, especially in today’s milieu of rampant Modernism.

Opinions Replace Truth

Opinions replace truth.  In this world the first and fundamental doctrine of power consists of an affirmation that there is no truth.  Saint Augustine said that the difference between the city of this world and the City of God consists of the former having a thousand opinions, while the latter has only one truth.  The basic difference between both cities, therefore, is not based on the content, but on the very existence of truth.  It suffices to remember the dramatic dialogue between Jesus and Pilate.

Technique

What is most grave is that there is a technique to replace truth by opinions.  This technique exists and is very useful.  It suffices to look at present religious, literary, and philosophical productions.  Opinions can be so cautiously expressed that it is impossible to get to know what the author’s thesis is, or even more paradoxical, doctrines that are mutually contradictory are juxtaposed as if they were consistent.

God Is “Dead”

Let us look at the words:  “God is dead.”  If the slogan were denial everybody would be able to understand.  However, here we have a subtly sophisticated idea through which “theologians” want to convey the deceitful impression that they are preserving the most assayed and chemically pure idea of God...through its “identification” with the most profound reality of man.

Liberal and Conservative

Even the ambiguous terms “conservative” and “progressive” [i.e. liberal] conceal the relativistic technique, which leads every doctrinal issue in the direction of right [i.e. conservative] wing and left [i.e. liberal] wing.  Thus everything becomes relative; everything becomes a matter of opinions and an instrument of power.  Relativity of truth and doctrine is the actual goal of these arbitrary developments of the Church’s present problems.  Is not this measure, proclaimed even by bishops and cardinals among Us, absurd and most unjust, as if it were an ideal to place us halfway between truth and error?

Gnosis

Is Gnosis Reappearing?  Let it be remembered that Gnosis, with its appeal to science and higher speculation, with its eagerness to understand mystery and to naturalize the Faith, was, during the second century, perhaps the worst danger in all the history of the Church.  I believe that the complex of errors circulating today can be called Gnosis, systematically speaking.  But... do many people know what they are talking about?  This is terrible, but they do not!

Adaptation

One does not act on rational grounds, but on one’s excessive desire to adapt oneself to the world.  Worldly power, however, has its own philosophy, and fashionable theologians translate fashionable opinions into theological language, not because they accept a doctrine as such, but because they accept these doctrines that flatter the powers of this world.”

Dictatorship of Public Opinion

The present times are grave, not because it is not longer a question of opposition or contrast between truth and error, but between truth and non-truth, between the order of truth and the dictatorship of public opinion.  People believe they are free because this appears in juridical texts; as a matter of fact, this deceiving belief is evidence of their servitude.

The Church

Is the Church also under the despotism of public opinion? Perhaps not the Church, but certainly many people within the Church are.  The Church could not be deprived of its freedom with the Holy Spirit’s provoking powerful reactions....

Restore a Distinction

What is Most Urgent? The most urgent work is to restore the distinction between truth and error in the Church.  We have reached a point where any exercise of ecclesiastical authority is considered an abuse of freedom, as if authority were a denial of freedom!  A thousand illegitimate powers severely and systematically curtain the conscience and liberty of people at a superficial level, while at the deepest level they detach them from the truth contained in the sources of revelation and the Magisterium.  I hope that just and authorized distinctions will be forthcoming. Pastoral Authority is no art of compromise and concession, but the art of Saving Souls through the Truth.

Abusive Liturgical Deformations

This truth is many times obscured by abusive liturgical deformations.  Today dangerous losses are discovered in the essential.  Not only is the Rite sacred, but also the presence in the Rite of the meaningful reality.  Once the Rite is mythologized the meaning of its contents is lost.  No wonder that the Eucharist becomes for some a mere feast of human unity where God is just a spectator.  This Is No Longer Heresy, but Apostasy.

Inner Perversion

The present situation in the Church is one of the most grave in its history, for this time the challenge does not come from outer persecution, but from inner perversion.  This is very grave.  But the gates of Hell will not prevail.

Thus Cardinal Siri’s Commentary on “opinion”.

(Note:  The Cardinal prefers the term Gnosis instead of Modernism or the Protestantization of the Church, perhaps because these things are the modern-day version of Gnosticism.)



Confusion

Confusion has been a continual problem for most of the Catholic Laity since Synod Vatican 2, as proven by the deleterious effects of such confusion deliberately sown as the virtual weeds of apostasy and heresy by that disaster known to history as Synod Vatican 2.   Several sources have documented this disaster with their statistics.

An Index of Catholicism’s Decline

A Review by Pat Buchanan

As the Watergate scandal of 1973-1974 diverted attention from the far greater tragedy unfolding in Southeast Asia, so, too, the scandal of predator-priests now afflicting the Catholic Church may be covering up a far greater calamity.

Thirty-seven years after the end of the only church council of the 20th century, the jury has come in with its verdict: Vatican II appears to have been an unrelieved disaster for Roman Catholicism.

Liars may figure, but figures do not lie. Kenneth C. Jones of St. Louis has pulled together a slim volume of statistics he has titled Index of Leading Catholic Indicators: The Church Since Vatican II.

His findings make prophets of Catholic traditionalists who warned that Vatican II would prove a blunder of historic dimensions, and those same findings expose as foolish and naive those who believed a council could reconcile Catholicism and modernity. When [2nd] Pope John XXIII threw open the windows of the church, all the poisonous vapors of modernity entered, along with the Devil himself.





Index of Leading Catholic Indicators: The Church Since Vatican II

Here are Jones's grim statistics of Catholicism's decline:

Priests.

While the number of priests in the United States more than doubled to 58,000, between 1930 and 1965, since then that number has fallen to 45,000. By 2020, there will be only 31,000 priests left, and more than half of these priests will be over 70.
Ordinations.
In 1965, 1,575 new priests were ordained in the United States. In 2002, the number was 450. In 1965, only 1 percent of U.S. parishes were without a priest. Today, there are 3,000 priestless parishes, 15 percent of all U.S. parishes.
Seminarians.
Between 1965 and 2002, the number of seminarians dropped from 49,000 to 4,700, a decline of over 90 percent. Two-thirds of the 600 seminaries that were operating in 1965 have now closed.
Sisters.
In 1965, there were 180,000 Catholic nuns. By 2002, that had fallen to 75,000 and the average age of a Catholic nun is today 68. In 1965, there were 104,000 teaching nuns. Today, there are 8,200, a decline of 94 percent since the end of Vatican II.
Religious Orders.   For religious orders in America, the end is in sight.
In 1965, 3,559 young men were studying to become Jesuit priests. In 2000, the figure was 389.
With the Christian Brothers, the situation is even more dire. Their number has shrunk by two-thirds, with the number of seminarians falling 99 percent. In 1965, there were 912 seminarians in the Christian Brothers. In 2000, there were only seven.

The number of young men studying to become Franciscan and Redemptorist priests fell from 3,379 in 1965 to 84 in 2000.

Catholic schools.
Almost half of all Catholic high schools in the United States have closed since 1965. The student population has fallen from 700,000 to 386,000. Parochial schools suffered an even greater decline. Some 4,000 have disappeared, and the number of pupils attending has fallen below 2 million -- from 4.5 million.

Though the number of U.S. Catholics has risen by 20 million since 1965, Jones' statistics show that the power of Catholic belief and devotion to the Faith are not nearly what they were.

Catholic Marriage.
Catholic marriages have fallen in number by one-third since 1965, while the annual number of annulments has soared from 338 in 1968 to 50,000 in 2002.
Attendance at Mass.
A 1958 Gallup Poll reported that three in four Catholics attended church on Sundays. A recent study by the University of Notre Dame found that only one in four now attend.
Other Data.
Only 10 percent of lay religious teachers now accept church teaching on contraception.

Fifty-three percent believe a Catholic can have an abortion and remain a good Catholic.

Sixty-five percent believe that Catholics may divorce and remarry.

Seventy-seven percent believe one can be a good Catholic without going to mass on Sundays.

By one New York Times poll, 70 percent of all Catholics in the age group 18 to 44 believe the Eucharist is merely a "symbolic reminder" of Jesus.

At the opening of Vatican II, reformers were all the rage.

They were going to lead us out of our Catholic ghettos by altering the liturgy, rewriting the Bible and missals, abandoning the old traditions, making us more ecumenical, and engaging the world.

And their legacy?

Four decades of devastation wrought upon the church, and the final disgrace of a hierarchy that lacked the moral courage of the Boy Scouts to keep the perverts out of the seminaries, and throw them out of the rectories and schools of Holy Mother Church.

Through the papacy of Pius XII, the church resisted the clamor to accommodate itself to the world and remained a moral beacon to mankind. Since Vatican II, the church has sought to meet the world halfway.

Jones' statistics tell us the price of appeasement.

Prophecy of Jesus Christ on the New Mass

Catholic Public Discussion Forums
Unable to Cope With Cunning Heretics

We have already explained above, that..superficial erudition, or merely common knowledge, will not suffice for all of this - there is the need for the solid, profound and continuous study [by all the Clergy] of a massive amount of Doctrinal knowledge which must be sufficient to cope with the subtlety and remarkable cunning of our Modern opponents.

Likewise, that the owners of the Catholic public discussion forums..need to be able to immediately recognize each and every..error opposed to Catholic Truth which has been  deliberately  camouflaged..by the Modernistic Heretics and the New Theology Heretics, when even those who have studied such subjects must be extremely careful, and to carefully censor all such postings, it should be self-evident that any failure to censor any/all heresies, which cunning Heretics try to post, including the Heresy of Modernism, and the New Theology Heresy,..will automatically incur the above censure, since each one thereupon falls,..ipso facto,..[automatically by the fact itself]..under the censure contained under the chapter ‘Docentes’ of the Constitution ‘Apostolicae Sedis’, which is the first among the Excommunications.. latae sententiae....

Therefore, wise and prudent owners of the..Catholic public discussion forums..need to immediately change their websites from the..Catholic public discussion forums..format, to some other format, because these automatic excommunications can ultimately send them to Hell, otherwise.  One possible format would be a web site composed of various direct quotations from Sacred Scripture (Douay-Rheims Bible only), various decrees of Doctrinal Councils and Popes, etc., with no place for any discussion or even a question-and-answer format.

Ultimately, the owners and operators of the..Catholic public discussion forums..need to realize that the Soul they save must first be their own Soul!

The Second Part of the Solution


Catholic Public Discussion Forums Can NOT Have the Imprimatur

The second part of the solution is to realize the fact that public discussion forums can NOT have the..Imprimatur and that, therefore, all public discussion forums can become an occasion of sin which could cause certain people to lose their Catholic Faith due to whatever apostasy and/or heresies which would be found on this type of internet web site.

For the record,..this internet web site (which does not have any public discussion forums) does have the Imprimatur.

Imprimatur:  [Let it be printed.]

Here is the Canon Law on the Imprimatur:

Chapter I, Canon Law # 1385, page p.  433, deals with the issue of the..Imprimatur.  “This canon first lays down a general rule as to what books must be submitted to ecclesiastical censorship, and then designates the authority competent to grant the Imprimatur.” (page  434.)  Canon Law # 1393 deals with the issue of the Censores (Censors-including the..Censor Librorum), beginning on page 450.  (Rev. P. Charles Augustine Bachofen, O.S.B., D.D., Professor of Canon Law, “A Commentary on the New Code of Canon Law”, Volume VI, Administrative Law, (Canons 1154-1551);  B. Herder Book Co., 1921.  Nihil Obstat, Sti. Ludovici, die 18. Nov. 1920, F. G. Holweck, Censor Librorum...Imprimatur, Sti. Ludovici, die 22. Nov. 1920, + Joannes J. Glennon, Archiepiscopus Sti. Ludovici.  Part IV, The Teaching Office of the Church, Title XXIII, The Censorship and Prohibition of Books, Chapter I, Canon Law # 1385; Canon Law # 1393.)
Imprimatur, word placed at the beginning or end of certain things published. It shows that those publishing them have complied with the law of the Church, which requires that writings on given topics, or even some images, be submitted to an ecclesiastical censor for examination before they are put forth.”  (Conde B. Pallen, Ph.D., LL.D., et Alii. John J. Wynne, S.J., S.T.D., Censor deputatus, “The New Catholic Dictionary”, 1929,..Imprimatur:..+ Patrick Cardinal Hayes, Archbishop of New York, Tuesday, October 1, 1929, p. 474-a.)
Catholic Public Discussion Forums Need to Change to Only Catholic Traditional Dogmas, etc.

Therefore, the ultimate problem for Catholic public discussion forums is the fact that they do not have an..Imprimatur. As We glanced over some of the entries on the public discussion forums on the web page of..courageouspriest,..We noticed that some of the entries stated the unchangeable traditional Catholic Faith, while other entries contained at least one or more parts of the heresies of Modernism and the New Theology.  Catholics who are ignorant of their Holy Catholic Faith can be easily misled by the heresies and apostasy of the...Satanic..Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church.

Whether or not..courageous   priest..realizes it,..HE HIMSELF IS helping to spread apostasy from the Catholic Church, not to mention the heresies of Modernism and the New Theology!  Sadly, on the Day of Judgement,  God will hold everyone like..courageouspriest.. accountable for all of the Souls that were lost because of his web site, and especially those apostate and heretical postings on his public discussion forum, irregardless his current best of intentions.

Hence, without the..Imprimatur, whether on a book, or other printed item, or on the internet, whether written data on web pages, or audio/video type formats, etc., not to mention TV and radio programs,..et alii, too many Catholics put the salvation of their immortal Souls in jeopardy, especially if they do not really know what the unchangeable teachings, dogmas, and doctrines of the Catholic Church really are!

Doubtless, some people will not really completely comprehend the necessity for the Imprimatur.  Other people may take the position that the Imprimatur should be eliminated because, to use Communist brain-washing slogans:..it inhibits free speech - it stifles freedom of expression - it is blatant dictatorial censorship in disguise.

Some people may be surprised to know that..the self-admitted Communist,..the..automatically excommunicated apostate and heretic,..P-6, a.k.a...Paul 6, ..Giovanni Battista Enrico Antonio Maria Montini  ..[b. at Concesio, Italy on Sunday, September 26, 1897 - d. at Castel Gandolfo, Italy on Sunday, August 6, 1978]; Pope: [Friday, June 21, 1963 - d. at Castel Gandolfo, Italy on Sunday, August 6, 1978], issued a Motu Proprio [A Rescript - Decree - Issued On His Own Initiative] entitled INTEGRAE SERVANDAE, as well as the Decree of the Congregation for Doctrine, issued on February 14, 1971, stating that writings on faith and morals may be published WITHOUT an Imprimatur!  Just another Demonic way to propagate the apostasy and heresies of the.Satanic. Synod Vatican 2 pseudo-church!

This was also another way for P-6 to avoid having to correct any and all apostasy and heresies in the documents of Synod Vatican.

However, because of the ever-changing data on such Catholic public discussion forums,  as the result of Visitor submissions,..no..Imprimatur..of any such web site forums is even possible.

Therefore, such..Catholic public discussion forums..are not permitted under the very obvious..   automatic censure of.. Excommunications latae sententiae...., ..because Pope Saint Pius X's Motu Proprio, “Præstantia Scripturæ Sacræ”, Monday, November 18, 1907, with its..Automatic .. Excommunication of all Heretics, especially the Modernist Heretics, and which today also includes The NEW Theology Theologian Heretics, remains in effect in perpetuity because heresy will continue to exist until the end of the world.

This is the final word by Pope Saint Pius X.  Thus,..Roma locuta, causa finita!

Part Eight:  Some Catholic Traditional Quotations

“But when He [God the Holy Ghost], the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will teach you all Truth.” (John 16:13).

“Am I then become your enemy, because I tell you the Truth?” (Galatians 4:16).

“Because they receive not the love of the Truth, that they might be saved. Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying.” (2 Thessalonians 2:10).

“Ever learning, and never attaining to the knowledge of the Truth.” (2 Timothy 3:7).

For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the Truth, but will be turned unto fables.” (2 Timothy 4:3-4).

No lie is of the Truth.”  (1 John 2:21).

Revealed Truth, to be what it professes, must have an uninterrupted descent from the Apostles. Its teachers must be unanimous and persistent in their unanimity and it must bear no human master’s name as its designation.”  (Patriarch Saint Athanasius [b. Alexandria, Egypt 296 A.D. - d. Alexandria, Egypt on Wednesday, May 2, 373A.D.], Patriarch of Alexandria, Egypt, Father of Orthodoxy in the Catholic Church, “Four Discourses Against the Arians”, Discourse II, Chapter XVII, Introduction to Proverbs viii. 22, Continued, ¶ 36; emphasis added).

Let them [apostates and heretics] not complain of what they do not understand, or they will bring on them a double imputation, of irreligion and of ignorance. Rather let them investigate the matter in a docile spirit, and learning what hitherto they have not known, cleanse their irreligious ears with the spring of Truth and the Doctrines of Religion.”   (Patriarch Saint Athanasius [b. Alexandria, Egypt 296 A.D. - d. Alexandria, Egypt on Wednesday, May 2, 373A.D.], Patriarch of Alexandria, Egypt, Father of Orthodoxy in the Catholic Church, Epistle - “In Defense of the Nicene Definition”, Chapter II, Conduct Of the Arians Towards the Nicene Council, ¶ 1; emphasis added.)

“Since there are therefore three states, or steps, of Truth, we ascend to the first by the toil of Humility, to the second by the emotion of compassion, to the third by the ecstasy of contemplation.”  (Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, Confessor, Cistercian Abbot [1090 A.D. - 1153 A.D.], Doctor of the Church, [b. at the Castle Fontaines, near Dijon, France in 1090 A.D. - d. at Clairvaux, France in 1153 A.D.], “The Steps of Humility”, 6; emphasis added.)

God is Truth.”  (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., [b. 1225 A.D. in Rocca Secca, Naples, Italy - d. Wednesday, March 7, 1274 A.D. in Fossa Nuova, Italy], Doctor of the Church: “Angelic Doctor”, “Common Doctor”; “Summa Theologica”, Part I, Question 16, Article 5; “Summa Theologica”, Part II-II, Question 93, Article 2, Reply to Objection 2. “Summa Contra Gentiles”, Book I, Chapter 60.)

Truth cannot be Truth’s contrary.”  (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P.,  “Summa Contra Gentiles”, Book IV, Chapter 8; emphasis added.)  In other words, Truth does not contradict itself.

If people are scandalized at the Truth, it is better to allow the birth of scandal, than to abandon the Truth.” (Saint Gregory I, the Great, [Friday, September 3, 590 - Monday, March 12, 604], Homily on Ezechiel, 7; cited by Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., “Summa Theologica”, Part II-II, Question 43, Article 7; emphasis added.)

“Anathema:  A thing or person struck by God’s malediction and intended for ruin.  Cf. I Cor. 12:13; Rom. 9:3; Gal. l:8-9. Anathema, in actual Church discipline, is the term used for ipso facto [i.e. this is an automatic] excommunication incurred by those denying a solemnly defined Truth, as is concluded principally from the dogmatic canons of the Council of Trent and the Vatican Council, (i.e. the Roman Catholic Council Vatican I in 1870).”  (Parente, Piolanti, Garofalo, Dictionary of Dogmatic Theology, “Anathema”; emphasis added.)

“But for Catholics nothing will remove the authority of the Second Council of Nicæa, where it condemns thosewho dare, after the impious fashion of heretics, to deride the Ecclesiastical Traditions, to invent novelties of some kind... or endeavor by malice or craft to overthrow any one of the legitimate Traditions of the Catholic Church’; nor that of the declaration of the Fourth Council of Constantinople: ‘We therefore profess to preserve and guard the rules bequeathed to the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, by the Holy and most illustrious Apostles, by the Orthodox Councils [i.e. those Catholic Traditional Doctrinal Councils that are 100% faithful to the unchangeable Apostolic Tradition preserved by the Fathers and Doctors of the Catholic Church], both general and local, and by everyone of those Divine interpreters, the Fathers and Doctors of the Church.’ Wherefore the Roman Pontiffs, Pius IV and Pius IX, ordered the insertion in the Profession of Faith of the following declaration: ‘I most firmly admit and embrace the Apostolic and Ecclesiastical Traditions and other observances and Constitutions of the Church.’”   (Pope Saint Pius X, Giuseppe Melchiorre Sarto [b. at Riese, Lombardy-Venetia, Austrian Empire on Tuesday, June 2, 1835; Pope: Tuesday, August 4, 1903 - Thursday, August 20, 1914], Encyclical “Pascendi Dominici Gregis”, On the Doctrine of the Modernists, # 42; Sunday, September 8, 1907; emphasis added).

“Therefore it is Our will that the law of our forefathers should still be held sacred: ‘Let there be no innovation - nothing but what has been handed down.’ (Pope Saint Stephen I [Friday, May 12, 254 - Sunday, August 2, 257], “Epistle to Africa”, quoted by Father Saint Vincent of Lerins [b. Toul, France, c. 400 A.D. - d. Island of Lerins, c. 450 A.D.], “A Commonitory [an aid to memory] for the Antiquity and Universality of the Catholic Faith Against the Profane Novelties of All Heresies,” Chapter VI, ¶ 16.).”  (Pope Benedict XV, Giacomo Della Chiesa [Thursday, September 3, 1914 - Saturday, January 21, 1922], Encyclical “Ad Beatissimi Apostolorum”, Sunday, November 1, 1914, ¶ 25; emphasis added.)

Magnopere curandum est ut id teneamus quod ubique, quod semper, quod ab omnibus creditum est.  Care must especially be had that that be held, which was believed everywhere, always, and by all.”  (Father Saint Vincent of Lerins [b. Toul, France, c. 400 A.D. - d. Island of Lerins, c. 450 A.D.], A Commonitory [an aid to memory] for the Antiquity and Universality of the Catholic Faith Against the Profane Novelties of All Heresies, Chapter 3; emphasis added.)

“Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.” (2 Thessalonians 2:14).   Father Saint Vincent of Lerins [b. Toul, France, c. 400 A.D. - d. Island of Lerins, c. 450 A.D.] said:  “When a foulness invades the whole Church . . . We must return to the Church of the past.” [Dr. Rama Coomaraswamy, The Destruction of the Christian Tradition, p. 257]; emphasis added.)

Part Nine:  Some Links Regarding the So-Called “New Mass”


As a convience to new Visitors, and as a refresher to those of you who have previously visited this web site, here are some links which deal with the so-called new mass, a.k.a., the Novus Ordo Mass:



A Critical Study of the New Order of Mass

HOLY MASS and the Novus Ordo Missae.  Is it valid?

Problems with the NEW Mass

Questioning The Validity of the Masses Using the  New, All English Canon

Questioning the Validity of McCarthy’s Case

The Sky Grows Darker Yet

The Liturgical Revolution

Do You Know Some of the Basic Differences?

Who Were the First Two Heretics Who Attacked the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass And Denied the Divine Mystery of Transubstantiation?

Which Mass IS THE MASS?

Jesus Christ Warned Catholics About the NEW Mass

There are Great Similarities Between The First Protestant Prayer Book of Edward VI And the Novus Ordo Missae of Pope Paul VI

There are 62 Reasons Why, In Good Conscience, Catholics CAN NOT Attend the NEW Mass!

116 Examples of the Demonic NEW anti-Catholic Mass

WHY did the “catholic church” Replace the Mass with an Entertainment Show?

A Roman Catholic Pope Listed A Number of Errors Found in a NEW Mass Rite

Part Ten:  Definition of Terms


absolute:

“1.  chiefly metaphysical senses  a.   self-sufficient in being and needing  no other; independent of, or altogether free from all external causes and conditions and external limitations and having the reason for its being and perfection entirely within itself.  b.  perfect, whole, or complete in itself.

2.  chiefly logical and epistemological senses.  a.  considered or conceived in itself, independently of its relations; not thought of as referred to something else.  b.  unqualified; unrestricted; unconditional; simple; categorical..”  (Father Bernard Wuellner, S.J., Dictionary of Scholastic Philosophy, A., absolute, p. 1-a.)

anathema, maranatha:

“If any man love not our Lord Jesus Christ, let him be anathema, maranatha.”  (1 Corinthians 16:22.)

“In one place (I. Cor. xvi.22) St. Paul adds to the word Anathema, ‘Maranatha,’ and the same is sometimes done by councils of particular Churches, but the usage has not passed into the general Canon Law. It has been supposed, but wrongly, that the addition of this word signifies that the censure will never be.  Maranatha is in truth an Aramaic word, belonging to a language familiar to St. Paul and most of his readers. It means ‘the Lord is at hand’ and has the same force as when this expression is used in its Greek form (Phil. iv. 5 [The Lord is nigh.]). The phrase enhances the force of that to which it is appended, by solemnly reminding the reader that Christ will come again, to judge the world.” (Rev. John Thein, “Ecclesiastical Dictionary,” “Anathema,” p. 33-a; emphasis added.)
“But though We, or an Angel from Heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.  As we said before, so now I say again:  If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema.”  (Galatians 1:8-9.)

Anathema:

Definition:

    anathema - a noun.

1. excommunication.

2. a formal Church Decree of excommunication of specific person(s) and/or one or more heresies.

3. a formal perpetual Church Decree of ipso facto  [automatically - by the fact itself] (a.k.a. automatic), excommunication incurred by adherence to, and/or the propagation of,  one or more heresies, e.g. Canons of the Council of Trent; Papal Bullae, etc.

4.  any imprecation (curse) of Divine punishment.

The abbreviation:  “AS = Anathema Sit. This signifies that the preceding proposition is officially condemned by the Church and is heretical .”  (Dr. Ludwig Ott, “Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma,” p. vii.)

Note:      Anathema Sit  -  is singular and applies to only one person.
         Anathemae Sint - is plural and applies to more than one person.

ANATHEMA then appears as the more solemn form of pronouncing or declaring excommunication.”  (Rev. P. Charles Augustine Bachofen, O.S.B., D.D., Professor of Canon Law, “A Commentary on the New Code of Canon Law”, B. Herder Book Co., 1922, Volume VIII, Book V, Penal Code [Canons 2195 - 2414], Part II, Penalties, Section II, Penalties in Particular, Title VIII, Corrective Penalties or Censures, Chapter II, Censures in Particular, Penalties, Article I, Excommunication, Canons 2255-2256, p. 170; emphasis added.)

“ANATHEMA:  A thing or person struck by God’s malediction and intended for ruin.  Cf. I Cor. 12:13; Rom. 9:3; Gal. l:8-9.  Anathema, in actual Church discipline, is the term used for IPSO FACTO [i.e. automatic] excommunication incurred by those denying a solemnly defined Truth, as is concluded principally from the Dogmatic Canons of the Roman Catholic Council of Trent and the Vatican Council, (i.e. the Roman Catholic Council Vatican I).”  (Parente, Piolanti, Garofalo, Dictionary of Dogmatic Theology, “Anathema”.)

Examples of Anathema:

“Share the lot of those whom you freely embrace and not the honor and communion of the Catholic Church.  Likewise, realize that you are separated from the number of the faithful; that you receive the name of an enemy of the Christian religion; that you are condemned by the judgment of the Holy Ghost and apostolic authority; and that you are never released from the bonds of this anathema.” (Pope Saint Felix I [Tuesday,  January 5, 269 - Wednesday, December 30, 274], Epistle  6.)

?But such as dare either to put together another faith, or to bring forward or to teach or to deliver a different Creed... let them be anathema [i.e. excommunicated].” (First Œcumenical Council of Chalcedon, Session 5, Sunday, October 22, 451.)

“We preserve the teachings of the Fathers (of the Church); We anathematize those who add or subtract anything.” (Seventh Œcumenical Council, the Second Council of Nicæa [Thursday, September 24, 787 A.D. - Friday, October 23, 787 A.D.].)


canard:  a false, or unfounded, statement, or rumor, or story.


fallacya violation of logical principle, disguised under a show of validity;  sophism; anything illogical; misleading, or erroneous in reasoning or discussion.”  (Father Bernard Wuellner, S.J., Dictionary of Scholastic Philosophy, F., fallacy, p. 46-a.)


faux pas:  literally -  false step.  Among other things it means:  a mistake; a blunder; a gaffe; a  boo-boo; a blooper.


rationalism:

“1.  a view that reason is self-sufficient to know all things and need not be helped by revelation from God.

2.  a view that a priori reason, independently of experience and verification of facts, can give certain knowledge of everything.”  (Father Bernard Wuellner, S.J., Dictionary of Scholastic Philosophy, R., rationalism, p. 105-a.)

reductio ad absurdum:  In logic, reductio ad absurdum (Latin for "reduction to absurdity"; or argumentum ad absurdum, "argument to absurdity") is a form of argument which attempts either to disprove a statement by showing it inevitably leads to a ridiculous, absurd, or impractical conclusion, or to prove one by showing that if it were not true, the result would be absurd or impossible.  (Aristotle: Prior Analytics.)


relative:

“1.  referred to another in some way; ordered to, connected with, dependent upon, limited by another in some way.

2.  considered in its relation to something else rather than absolutely in itself.

3.  unintelligible or impossible except as related to something else..”  (Father Bernard Wuellner, S.J., Dictionary of Scholastic Philosophy, R., rationalism, p. 108-b.)


relativism:

“1.  epistemology, the view that knowledge entirely depends on and varies with the limited ability off each mind and its conditions of knowing; the denial of absolute truth and certitude.

2.  ethics, the view that morals are in no matters intrinsically good or evil butt that all depend on variable conditions such as the will of God, customs and conventions, positive laws, degree of culture, social approval, etc.;  a denial of unchanging morality and of the immutability of principles of the natural law.”  (Father Bernard Wuellner, S.J., Dictionary of Scholastic Philosophy, R., relativism, p. 108-b.)


straw-man:  an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.





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